First rioter given eviction notice

Release date: Friday 12th August 11

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A council tenant whose son has appeared in court charged in connection with Monday night’s disturbances in Clapham Junction will today (Friday) be served with an eviction notice.

The tenant is believed to be the first in the country to now be facing the prospect of losing their council-owned home as a result of Monday night's rioting and looting.

The notice is the first stage in the legal process of eviction. The notice gives warning that the council will be seeking possession of the property and that an application will be made to the courts seeking the tenant's eviction. The final decision will rest with a judge sitting at the county court.

Neither the tenant nor their son can be named at this stage for legal reasons.

Wandsworth Council has acted immediately in the wake of local magistrates courts hearings to instigate tough action against tenants or members of their households who were directly involved in the disturbances.
 
Council leader Ravi Govindia welcomed the swift action by the housing department and added: "In Wandsworth we are determined to take the strongest possible action against any tenant or member of their household responsible for the truly shocking behaviour perpetrated on local homes and businesses earlier this week.

"This council will do its utmost to ensure that those who are responsible pay a proper price for their conduct. Ultimately this could lead to eviction from their homes. 

"Our officers will continue to work with the courts to establish the identities of other council tenants or members of their households as more cases are processed in the coming days and weeks."

"Most residents on our housing estates are decent law-abiding citizens who will have been sickened at the scenes they witnessed on their TV screens this week. Many will have seen their places of work trashed at the hands of these rioters. As much as anything else we owe it to them to send out a strong signal that this kind of violence will not be tolerated." 

The council is able to commence eviction proceedings against this tenant for breaching their tenancy agreement. Under the terms of the agreement, which applies to all the council's rented accommodation, all tenants, their household members and visitors are forbidden from a range of criminal and anti-social activities. Breaches of the agreement render them liable to eviction

Cllr Govindia added: "When you move into a council property, you have to agree to comply with certain tenancy conditions. If you break those conditions you risk losing your home.

"There is no room on our estates for people who commit violent crimes, who show no consideration for their neighbours or harass, threaten, intimidate or cause disturbance to others."

For more information contact the Wandsworth Council press team at press@wandsworth.gov.uk.

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Recent comments

Eviction = Punishment. mmm Why not put these family in jail too?. Wandsworth council is full of bunch Idiots.
eddie

12 April 2012

well i was a council tenant in bournemouth and i have real problems with the nebour under me and the council where going to trow me out when it sould obeen her any comments on this have you been acused and made to look like your the troubel maker when your the vitem i like your comments
denise mitchell

31 January 2012

Well done Wandsworth. There are plenty there on the waiting list who are law abiding. Why should people who riot get preferential housing. Throw them out forever!
Paul

24 December 2011

A spectacular display of heartless evil. You have my congratulations!
Satan

20 November 2011

I would like to know, who duty it is to uphold the Values of our Demcracy? If in fact the UK, and its Democratic values do represent Fairness and Justice for ALL, why therefore are Senior Bankers allowed to get away with their Criminal Fraudulent Activities we have seen in the Subprime Mortgage market, while others are arrested and jailed? Is it not clear enough that the Fraudulent Activities of these CEO Bankers saw the grave Weakening of our Economy? If that is understood, please can somone explain why our Democratic values have not been implemented for these individuals? The Political FAILURE to ACT on these issues, and to UPHOLD a fundamental representation of decency to 'ordinary folk', has been the nail in the coffin for many.
IAS

5 November 2011

If the notice is served on the parents before the court pronounces on the son, then Wandsworth would already be seeking the family's eviction if the son is found innocent. Only Wandsworth has the dosh to take innocent people to court in a case it knows it will lose. But it's our money the council is wasting. One result of Wandsworth's stance would be for families with difficult or wayward children to either request their kids are taken into care or else to throw their kids out on the street. So much for the right to family life! But not all parents of awkward teenagers would be prepared to risk their homes for them. I seems terrible that Wandsworth seeks to have kids thrown out on the street. Shame on them!
caroline porter

11 October 2011

No one has yet been convicted so why 'rioter'. And the eviction notice has been given to the mother of the alleged rioter. The article appears therefore to be both misleading and libellous.
Roger Houghton

8 September 2011

So Wandsworth Council are introducing collective punishment. That seems totally reasonable. One has to assume that they will be introducing this rule for all criminal acts committed by council tenants? When will they be introducing the prison camps?
J B

7 September 2011

Yes there should realize the reader to RSS my feed to RSS commentary, quite simply
hooher tod

3 September 2011

so when do we go down to physically stop this family being evicted? first point how do we find out who they are any suggestions? whos with me?
LT

31 August 2011

With obliging behaviour outlined in tenents Terms & Conditions, neighbours expect the correct course of action to be taken. Well done Wandsworth Council.
Lynn Dunneye

18 August 2011

The two blogs from Sophia and Andy form a nice contrast! Sophia, who appears not to know the family, has no sympathy for them and offers a simple minded solution based on weird ideas about how easy it will be to find a new home. She also makes wild, presumeably slanderous remarks about James Newman. Whereas, Andy, who does know them, offers a warm appreciation of what the family have really done. In an earlier blog, Sophia stresses that the mother signed the lease knowing the clause but this does not mean that she has signed away her rights. If it did, then the council wouldn't need to go to court to evict her. Also, why go before a guilty verdict? Clearly, it is political and goes against the spirit of their own "Eviction" web page.
Michael Trees

18 August 2011

The decision to evicte people due to their part in the riots, has to be the highest form of facisme ever used in a country that calls itself a Democracy. How such a decision is suppose to correct and make the people in question understand the wrongs they have done? I would love to hear the pshicolegy behind the decision. Also hope, that all involved in this appouling and shamefull decision, are the ones to loose their jobs when the next round of cuts come your way... You have shown the rest of the World your level of inteligence as leaders of a community. Have the famalies of the London bombers been evicted? ... With no further matter, excuse the no ''Regardes'' but I do not feel any respect for people of your kind.
Porfirio Pires

18 August 2011

I have lived on the estate where they live and i have seen first hand the voluntary work both the mother and son have done to help others, when we needed volunteers for a community project they helped week in and week out for a few years. The young person is not a gang member, never been involved with criminal activity and the mother is a kind, caring and compassionate member of the community. They are a decent family and the council would be kicking out a family that work hard to make the estate a better place. It disgusts me that a family like this would be used to make a political point
Andy

18 August 2011

Lets face it, they are not going to be out in the street with thier belongings. They will most problably move in with thier close familys or friends (who also most likely live in council owned accomodation) hopefully in a different borough. James Newman has exposed himself as petty and lower class, who was probably out snatching purses and looting last week. One question Jimmy, hows the new tv, did you get it into your council estate flat?
Sophia

18 August 2011

This is disgusting behaviour by Wandsworth Council. Evicting an innocent family who were not rioting. Jeopardising a child's education. Are they evicting families of muggers, burglars, tax dodgers, rapists, murderers? Families are not the people to punish. It discriminates against women and children. Wandsworth seeking the limelight yet again.
Diane Lawley

17 August 2011

Steven Barr. How about you send yourself there. Anyone who wants to punish an innocent 8 year old girl for someone elses actions does not deserve to call themselve British. I hope you are never thrown out from your house when you have done nothing wrong and I hope people don't tell you that you deserve it because of what someone else did.
James Newman

17 August 2011

"Plus I say again that it does not mean they are out on the street homeless, they simply have to get a job and pay rent to a private landlord like everyone else." Sophia thinks its easy for someone to get a job when you are thrown onto the streets. The only job I can think of which does not require a home, bank account, proof of ID is a hooker. Is Sophia suggesting that the family become hookers and sell their bodies because that is the only easy job one can get on the street. It may work for her but it does not work for everyone else including a family of children.
James Newman

17 August 2011

James Newman, I am happy to buy the family a one-way ticket to Mogadishu, where I'm sure they'll feel most at home.
Steven Barr

17 August 2011

One of the family members who will be made homeless without access to money, food, clothing, etc is an 8 year old girl is 100% innocent in this matter. The parents and other family members are also innocent yet the council, Government and many idiots believe it’s justified to punish everyone for the actions of a few. A presenter on LBC was asked what he thought about an innocent 8 year old girl becoming homeless. His response was "I don't care". What society has the UK become when people are happy for innocent children to be put on the street. How will they eat? These people are no better then the looters themselves who also didn't care what happened. Why should anyone care about looting if children can be thrown on the street?
James Newman

17 August 2011

It is clearly completely unjust to evict a tenant for the action of their son. I think that the following quotation from the Old Teatament makes the point very clearly. (Deuteronomy 24:16) - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin." If Councillor Ravi Govindia is still unclear as to why this eviction is against natural justice could he please contact me and I will explain it in more detail.
Lawrence Davies

17 August 2011

Greetings from Germany. Far more shocking than the riots themselves have been the reactions in the UK so far. The level of brutal authoritarian reactionism reaches from utterly pathetic to scaringly sad to plain violations of human rights. These measures won't help anyone. It's just playing into the hands of lying and exploiting politicians and bankers who are responsible for this desolation of a once great country. I feel sorry for the UK. The financial crisis and how the British have handed it so far have finally killed my desires/plans to move to London. :(
Serg

17 August 2011

International law prohibits collective punishment, i.e. the punishment of persons for acts committed by others (article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Article 50 of the Hague Regulations). Evictions also breach the principle of double jeopardy-ie the same act should not be punished twice
louise

17 August 2011

Some of the comments are laughable and I hope any negative comment leavers read the comment by the council leader that was published in a national newspaper. 1. It is only if the son is found guilty 2. The parents are surely responsible for thier sons actions as he is still a minor at 14 3. They signed thier tenancy agreement just like every other private/council rented tennent, so if you break the rules than your liable to the consequences. People get evicted all the time for thier childrens anti-social and criminal behaivour so why is rioting and looting any different. Plus I say again that it does not mean they are out on the street homeless, they simply have to get a job and pay rent to a private landlord like everyone else.
Sophia

17 August 2011

I find it horrendous that a woman can lose her household because of something her son has done, and the news that this is the prospect one woman faces in Wandsworth has caused me to comment on this shock with an urge to the Wandsworth Council that this reaction be reconsidered and that those amongst the council that feel this is appropriate openly debate their opinions. In my own personal opinion, deterring future riots is not as simple as getting revenge on those that did it (though if it were, how would making a vulnerable family more vulnerable help OR deter?). When looking for a cause of the London riots it's clear to me there are no easy or definitive answers. I'm running out of characters now so I'll have to stop here.
James Shearman

17 August 2011

This is disgusting and absolutely counter-productive behaviour by the council. Eleanor Saunders, London ^ this
Jason

16 August 2011

CRIMINAL! How in any just world is this ok!
Howard

16 August 2011

No need to worry. Fine legal minds will crush Wandsworth and their mediocre legal team into utter humiliation, thats pretty much the accepted legal view from upon high. More to the point can we see the leaders resignation?
Jim Salmon

16 August 2011

it sickens me how easy it is 2 throw people out in the street / that's what u want I guess, people 2 be scared and compliant / disgusting
alisa christensen

16 August 2011

How do you people sleep at night? The riots were the direct result of inequality forced upon the class system by an unfair and unjust Government, furthermore the mother of the said son had no involvement in his acts. Now i am 100% certain that any of you with children know that sometimes no matter how hard you try with your children, they do not always listen and do what they will. You are personally holding his mother responsible and she must feel like such a failure even if she is not. How is it that rioters are being evicted from homes, being sentenced highly for stealing items of clothing (which im not justifying but i can also see how they could be caught up in moment of madness) yet Paedophiles are being served lesser sentences?
Odette Gosling

16 August 2011

You haven't served an eviction notice on a rioter at all. You've served an eviction order on his Mother. Isn't collective punishment banned by the Geneva Convention? Aren't the Tories waging a 'war on criminality' thereby making this illegal? Don't worry all this and more will tested in your courts of law and the highest they can be taken to, (wherever that be). You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Paul Jarvis

16 August 2011

I think its ridiculous that so many people find it "outrageous" and "inhumaine" that the council is CONSIDERING eviction for this family. Lets face it the parents are responsible for their 14 year old son's actions and as they have signed up and agreed to the conditions which include thier family members, not to commit criminal or anti-social behavour. So by the son being charged in acourt of law then they have broken there contract and not unfaily IMO face eviction. Also it is not like they will be out in the street with all thier belongings, all it means is that they loose thier PRIVILIDGE that is council housing. I hope it gets rolled out accross other London councils.
Sophia

16 August 2011

This is absolutely wrong!! how do you solve a problem by making it worse? These people are already angry and vulnurable and evicting them will make it worse. You just started a timer and if this goes on, soon another bomb will explode.
Nada

16 August 2011

Excellent news, im not paying for someone to live in this Borough who then decides to destroy it. I hope this is not the last. Strong action by a strong Council
John

16 August 2011

This is revolting.
M

16 August 2011

Counterproductive & a waste of local community money when you lose & have to pay out court costs. Egg all over your management & councillors faces & then I wonder who will usurp you as the Daily Mail/Boris Johnson's favourite LA?? Don't you dare raise council tax rates to cover the shortfall either.
Briget

16 August 2011

Guilty until proved innocent is it nowadays? There's been no conviction yet, so why serve notice to evict before outcome at court?
Joan Lawrence

15 August 2011

Those who apologise for the rioters need to say how we are going to stop this happening again. It happened because the rioters weren't scared. Fear of losing ones home is likely to make people see reason. And do spare a though for those who've already lost theirs: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026282/UK-riots-Croydon-street-destroyed-riots-looks-like-devastating-scene-Blitz.html
M Cox

15 August 2011

I think the council should be ashamed of itself for proposing to evict this woman because of her son's alleged actions. If the son is guilty, he will pay "pay a proper price for his conduct" as decided by the courts. To remove him from his home is an unreasonable further punishment. To remove the mother is even more unjust. We hear a lot about broken homes from politicians and here we have a council proposing to break up one! The council should rethink its policy and change their tenants' contracts to remove this eviction clause. If court case is not withdrawn, I hope that the judge agrees that this is an unreasonable action.
Michael Trees

15 August 2011

"Sippenhaft" (kin liability) as has been stated is a Nazi philosophy that has been embraced by Wandsworth. This is a very very dangerous path to follow, populist pandering now, but tomorrow... time for the leader to resign I think, before he is pushed.
Ed Austin

15 August 2011

Do Wandsworth ever do criminal record checks on the Immigrants and Eastern europeans it houses? Making HOMELESS is NOT the answer. Wandsworth will be known all around the world for this eviction.
Alan Lane

15 August 2011

Its very bad action,i hope its reject by courts.we should consider all area for examle when parents give hard time to there kids police and social involve there.some one individual action you cant punishment whole family if its vaild then prime ministar should leave first 10 DS because his cabenet crupet police have many issue othere many department looting people many ways like banks etc any way when you fire other homes one day you catch on your own door.camron cut ur budget from forces killing innocent people others country and looting them spent this money to youth projects.
khalid iqbal malik

15 August 2011

The problem with the left is their total inability to say NO!and it follows that they have a problem with punishment. The problems we see are all down to left wing social experiments and ideology. It was the left who took discipline out of schools in the form of corporal punishment and left a void in the way of a detterant.Children need barriers,they should be told that if they misbehave, they will pay a price. If people know that they will lose things if caught,some will learn others may not.The choice is theirs.
Mark

15 August 2011

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Adam Cooper

15 August 2011

It is appalling that the actions of one member of a family - who is not the legally responsible tenant - has the potential to lead to the eviction of a whole family. Almost worse, the council seems to be gloating over this unjust possibility. Over thirty years ago, my older brother got into trouble with the police a couple of times, while I was at school doing my O and A levels. My family, which included two younger sisters, were living in social housing. At the time, my brother was sometimes hot-headed enough to get caught up in stupid acts. Were he a teenager today, he could easily have got caught up in rioting. Would it have been justified to even threaten to evict my mother, myself and sisters, thus jeopardizing all of our futur
Dr Christopher Davies

15 August 2011

Evicting an innocent woman from her home is wrong. I hope she gets plenty of legal help and support from people to fight this nasty decision by Wandswoth council. And why are convicted Peadophiles and Rapists allowed to keep their Council homes?
Brian Smith

15 August 2011

Wandsworth Council, you are an utter, utter disgrace. No one has been found guilty. There is no crime of 'guilty of being related to'. Do you routinely evict the families of rapists and murderers too? If not, then you are minimising those crimes and saying that being charged with rioting is worse than committing rape or murder. You are point scoring with Cameron in the most despicable way. Private Eye should proclaim you rotten borough of the century. This act of taking the law into your own hands is loathsome. Shame on you!!!
Michele Spandow

15 August 2011

well done WBC, hopefully the Council will not be undermined by a court decision not to evict; the Council works very hard to sustain a decent standard of living in Wnadsworth and should be supported by the courts
sara-may

15 August 2011

I lived in Wandsworth until 1991 and was visiting an old acquaintance there between 9th and 12th August, and met a friend now resident in the burrough on Friday morning. It was terrible to see local TV pictures of a pall of black smoke rising over London. I saw a beggar sitting in the Street on Putney High Street - an adult man. How does on ensure no one has to live in the Street? http://www.gavaghancommunications.com
Helen Gavaghan

14 August 2011

My suspicions are that such actions as evicting families for the crime of a family member is against the law. Collective punishment is forbidden by Article 33 of the 4th Geneva Convention and Article 50 of the Hague Regulations. Questions should also be raised regarding double jeopardy, in that you can not be punished for the same offense twice. I presume that if the person in question is convicted, the punishment by the court would be considerd his just punishment. If the person is not convicted, then there is no case for eviction.
Andy H

14 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth . Now maybe they may consider how thier attitude has brought this upon them.
Clark Cooper

14 August 2011

Wandsworth you pretend to care about a community but this will only disrupt it. It appears you have no idea of what is going on. An eviction on political terms will only make the growing sense of dissatisfaction here worse. This is not justice; this is a disproportional knee-jerk slap in the face to those who are trying to make a difference and those who already mistrust our justice system. Are we not trying to prevent riots?
Andrea

14 August 2011

great information, i love it.
Law Society of England wiki

14 August 2011

Ricky Jones, you do not speak for the silent majority. I loath the tories of Wandsworth. I cannot march or riot because I am disabled but I always vote even if it is only to spoil my vote. Wandsworth BC is ETHNIC CLEANSING. The disabled, the old, the unemployed. Wandsworth is full of "new money" who have no style or class and no roots or loyalty. Most of the tory councillors are not from Wandsworth.
Ann

14 August 2011

Ricky Jones, Wandsworth I was wondering - is that like the 'silent majority' who allowed Hitler to take power in 1936? You fight fire with fire and you get explosions - are you so backward you don't understand that? Has history taught you NOTHING?
Geoff Horsing

14 August 2011

Do those supporting the proposed eviction understand the meaning of the word HYPOCRISY? Where were you all when the banks looed the economy? Where were you all when the P's looted the public purse? Where were you all when the media looted a dead child's phone? You were nowhere - nowhere to be seen. Thats because like all cowards you only fight the weakest in society - you don't have the stomach to take on the strong. The longer this hypocrisy continues the worse the riots will become. You have bought it upon yourselves.
Robert Savage

14 August 2011

DPRUK.blogspot.com: Labour's children; how welfare dependency caused the riots http://t.co/RPnGDFu
@HortonEddison

14 August 2011

Wandsworth - I 100% agree with your approach. I can assure you that I am with the silent majority on this matter.
Ricky Jones

14 August 2011

"David Cameron limited his claims to mortgage interest payments and utility bills. He will repay almost £1,000 claimed on his expenses, including £680 for repairs to his home. He also paid off a loan on his London house after he took out a taxpayer-funded £350,000 mortgage on his designated second home." This tenant should be punished as severely as cameron was.
Dana Hofman

14 August 2011

"David Cameron limited his claims to mortgage interest payments and utility bills. He will repay almost £1,000 claimed on his expenses, including £680 for repairs to his home. He also paid off a loan on his London house after he took out a taxpayer-funded £350,000 mortgage on his designated second home." This tenant should be punished as severely as severely as cameron was.
Dana Hofman

14 August 2011

Cllr. Govindia was thrown out of Uganda and we picked him up and gave loads of charity so that he could rebuild his life. Maybe if he had behaved himself a bit better he would not have been thrown out of Uganda. Whatever; decent people dont behave like that here in England Cllr Govindia, not even in Wandsworth as you well know as you have done so well here in Wandsworth you should know. Give them charity as you received so willingly when you were down on your uppers.
Hannah

14 August 2011

This is lynch mob justice and blatant populism. Don't get me wrong, I do not condone the son's behaviour, but do support the rights of other members of his family to not be thrown on the street. Apart from anything else a lot of supporters of this move, in the ConDem government and the media, are ideologically opposed to council housing and want to make it easier to expel tenants, and for them the riots are a brilliant opportunity.
Andrew W

14 August 2011

This will be an important test case, legal opinion seems to be that the clause in the contract will be very hard to enforce. Although I don't believe these actions will produce any benefit for anyone, I can understand the councils position; however it would be an absolute outrage if taxpayers money was spent on court proceedings that were deemed unwinnable by the council's council.
PatrickK

14 August 2011

What about those private tenants living above Fire gutted shops now made homeless and lost everything do to the riots............I am sure they wil be deserving if a council flat in excess of £220000 in value was available fior them to sleep in !
Kyle

14 August 2011

PARENTAL CONTROL, RIOTS, EVICTIONS: When I was about 11 years old I decided to go out to work. Many children have strong views and parents cannot change their minds, whatever they say or do. You can blame the parents if you want to, but then you are no better than those rioters who blame the government. If action is going to be taken against parents – please investigate thoroughly and find out if those parents have done the best they could given their circumstances.
Susan McKenzie

14 August 2011

Congratulations Wandsworth Council – You have my support and that of most law abiding people. You have acted for the real victims of these riots People were killed in these riots; people lost all their possessions when their homes were burnt to the ground. Small businesses have been destroyed. This tenant is in breach of his/her contract. They failed or were unwilling to control their child and allowed this feral teenager out to loot & riot. It is no excuse that the ‘parent was asleep when the kid went out’ (as I have heard claimed on the radio). Any loving parent would move heaven & earth to prevent their child going out when there is riots on the streets. Besides, this person had already failed in their duty as a parent to tea
Jalipa

13 August 2011

Judging by the number of supporters the looter has on this thread, I'm feel certain that someone here will put the family up? I'm sure you'll get on like a house on fire.
M Cox

13 August 2011

I live on an estate and have just this moment witnessed three big 'members of the community' hauling giant bags of loot across the road to the boot of their car. They were laughing their heads off because they have got away with it. Thousands, like them, will get away with it. For that reason alone, the punishments must be severe. A council house is the most valuable thing many of these people have. Fear of losing it will force parents and adults to take responsibility for their lives. I am sick and tired (literally) of seeing these people abusing society's generosity. It's time for the antisocial masses face the consequences. I applaud Wandsworth's brave stance.
M Cox

13 August 2011

I can't begin to express how wrong I believe this is. Wandsworth Council you are a disgrace.
Simon Gale

13 August 2011

I strongly condemn the actions of the looters and rioters but i can't accept a tenant being punished twice. They will be homeless and somebody will have to pick up the bill to put them into temporary accommodation and eventually rehouse them, will it be Wandsworth rate payers, probably? Will the millionaires daughter who also is a looter, be punished twice, probably not?
C R Murray

13 August 2011

Without a conviction even. You smug pricks! Evict yourselves from our jobs.
Mike

13 August 2011

Who are these council decision makers sitting up in their ivory towers ruining a families life like this? Punishing an entire family in this way will create more problems than it will solve. And pointless as you will only have to re-house them because they will now be homeless. Do not allow these actions to occur without protest. One day, they may change the remit of who they deem unsuitable and you may find yourself one day the target. What if you have a child protesting against unfair rises in tax, they're arrested and you are tossed out on the street even though you don't agree with them. Is that fair? This is not about the riots alone, this is a scary view into future Britain starting with Wandsworth Council.
B Taylor

13 August 2011

This is counter-productive and pathetic.
Glen

13 August 2011

For those of you who think this is appalling, I've got a petition going here: https://www.change.org/petitions/wandsworth-borough-council-tell-wandsworth-council-not-to-punish-innocent-people
Robert

13 August 2011

I do agree with people that those who participated in the riots should face the consequences of their actions but only through criminal justice system. In regards to the eviction notice for this family due to the sons suspected involvement it is a disgusting move by the council. It is for the Police and CPS to deal with this matter not the council. You state that the tenancy agreement forbids violence and crime, but that relates to the property, not ones actions in public outside. At this time we should be looking to rebuild those who lost their livelihoods and assist the Police not take the law into our own hands as a council or a person, as vigilantes. I hope that the courts recognise that this would be a dangerous precedent to set.
James

13 August 2011

Absolutely disgusting. Wandsworth council should be ashamed and I hope no other local power-greedy idiots follow this example.
James Hill

13 August 2011

Excellent statement by Wandsworth Council which is merely pointing out that it has powers to evict the criminal and the antisocial according to the terms of renter's least. There's lots of private accommodation to rent, and if they all work they'll have no difficulty paying the market rate. I think what while they may suffer in the short term, in the longer term it will be good for them to learn to stand on their feet and I would expect that ultimately they will develop a sense of self-pride and new-found respect for their surroundings and fellow citizens which is currently lacking.
M Cox

13 August 2011

In short, a county court judge will be final arbiter and is obliged by law to exercise the test of 'reasonableness' on whether to grant a possession order. These are civil proceedings for breaching terms of tenancy agreement which most other decent tenants want to see enforced so will general public pls go and read the Housing Act in relation to secure/assured tenancies and read what is in the average tenancy agreement before passing comment? If you want to see change then lobby to change the law - don't bleat at councils and housing associations for using the options as allowed by law that has been in place for 25 years.
G. B.

13 August 2011

Don’t do this – two wrongs do not make a right. I was saddened by the riots but I am even more saddened that councils are thinking of evicting families of looters. The courts have punished the person, so I feel it is wrong to evict. You have criticised looters/rioters, but this conduct is worse because you are supposed to have higher values and enlightenment. If councils do this, I think they are worse than the rioters.
Susan McKenzie

13 August 2011

Someone with knowledge of housing law in this country has just point out on the radio that in fact council housing subsidises the Government. Dont forget Thatcher changed the law to stop Council's investing rent monies into more social housing. So even if the tenant in question is on HB they will then land up in private housing where their rent will be double the amount they pay as a social tenant. Not because they are subsidised, but because private landords are ripping off the housing shortage in this country. All of you whining about having to pay your mortguages or over priced private rents, you got this by supporting right wing polices that have created a housing shortage so that property owners can cash in on an artificial shorta
Janice

13 August 2011

I am seething with anger, disgust and incredulity at the disgraceful actions of Wandsworth Council. This is truly, truly wrong. 'Alleged rioters' should be tried through the criminal justice system; provision of social benefits and housing should, under no circumstances, be used as a means of punishment and regulation. This appalling reaction is intensely worrying and is shaming of Wandsworth Council. I hope Govindia will reconsider his position. He is so short sighted it is barely believable.
Anna

13 August 2011

Congratulations to Wandsworth Council for taking this tough stance and for making an example of someone whose behaviour is totally unacceptable. People who try to destroy their community by rioting and looting don't deserve to live in housing subsidised by that community. For all those whining about the presumption of innocence, it has been made clear elsewhere (and you don't have to be a genius to figure this out) that in the event that the youth were acquitted, the eviction process would be abandoned because it would be unnecessary and in any case wouldn't succeed.
Tim

13 August 2011

Eviction of tenants is unwarranted overkill. We have courts, and we have laws, and if an individual (any individual) breaks the law by commirring theft or criminal violence, he/she should be prosecuted in terms of the law they have broken. Taking away a family's home is not justice - it is retribution, and that should have no place in a civilised society.
Alex

13 August 2011

people keep saying "whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty" but it's likely he pleaded guilty in court so nothing has to be proved, that is probably why action has been taken so quickly before sentencing
matt

13 August 2011

Has the tenant's son been convicted yet? If not, it's obvious that Wandsworth Council has never heard of the presumption of innocence. By not being aware of the presumption of innocence, Wandsworth is ignorant. By its action in pressing for eviction it's proven itself to be arrogant in its ignorance. Disgraceful.
Steve Woods

13 August 2011

this is the kind of social injustice that caused the trouble in the first place, the council has a duty to act honourably & their own tenancy agreement states that any conviction for criminal activity involving council property could result in an eviction, this is mainly used to evict drug dealers, or persistent anti social types, I do hope the family get good representation, because if the magistrate is decent then they should not lose their home as no part of the tenancy agreement has been broken. This is an abuse of power & surely the council should have restrictions on what it uses our money for, they should be funding youth facilities in the borough, but that is not something they are doing at all.
dean

13 August 2011

This hideous action of taking revenge, and revenge it is, on the family of this feckless youth is dispicable, ugly and close to evil and every member of your council supporting this measure should hang their heads in shame.
Ben Murphy

13 August 2011

All right so if this man's son is found guilty then his son deserves to be punished by the courts but since when have we started to punish the same person twice for the same offence? and since when has one person's guilt been transferable on to his family ? Punishing his family is equal to the sort state oppression that one would expect from the Syrian or Iranian Governments it’s not the kind of brutal injustice that we expect in a modern democracy. By doing this sort of thing we are giving up the moral high ground and we are handing it over to the criminals and I for one will supporting any campaign that opposes this eviction.
Richard Thompson

13 August 2011

Disgusting policy! Surely what is needed is greater investment into social policy to develop a sense of worth and community. Not to evict an entire family doe to the *aledged* actions of the son. The courts have the responsibility for sentencing when someone is found to guilty of a crime. Unless criminal activities were being carried out on the premesis in contravention of the lease agreement surely this is unlawful (quite apart from being immoral, irresponsible and plain wrong). I don't live in Wandsworth but I call on everyone who does to put pressure on the council to stop this madness!!
Sarah Morgan

13 August 2011

Ridiculous knee-jerk headline fodder for the red-tops. Shame on Wandsworth Council - you are part of the problem if you carry on with this.
Ben

13 August 2011

The move to commence eviction action on the parent of this law breaker is appropriate so long as the same action has been, or will be, taken against all tenants who break the law and not just a person involved in the recent rioting. I guess that local residents who are not tenants of Wandsworth but who are convicted of taking part in the rioting will not have this, or similar additional punishment added to their sentence. Does the council expect the evicted family to take up residence in local shop doorways or will they expect neighbouring councils to provide the emergency housing that the current law requires to be provided?
Peter Coltham

13 August 2011

i am appalled and disgusted at your knee jerk response to the rioting that occurred within your borough. you are prooseing to make an 8 year old child homeless as a result of her adult brothers actions. furthermore the young man in question has yet to be convicted of any crime. this child will be as amuch a victim as those others who lost their homes. if you seek to evict every tenant who has a conviction, your estates would be empty. yes, punish those responsible, but please let the punishment fit the crime, or in this case, the alleged crime.
deirdre baker

13 August 2011

How exactly is making someone homeless going to reduce the incidence of crime in the area? If anything Furthermore, when exactly did it become the council's remit to dole out punishements – surely that's a matter for the court system which, while not perfect by any means, at least adheres to the faithful adage of 'innocent until proven guilty'. Of course, we already know that the parent of this alleged rioter is being punished with eviction despite not being in any way implicated, so I suppose innocence isn't really an issue for you. This is disgusting, reactionary electioneering in its ugliest form, designed to win approval from the baying mob, and nothing more.
Odhran O'Donoghue

13 August 2011

So its OK for these people to steal, kill and destroy peoples lives but its not Ok for the council to enforce their regualation of agreement on a household that as not obeyed the tenacy agreement. Its the parent or the person on the rent books responsabilty to make sure there is not a breech of contract. If she new what he was doing she should of either kept him in or kicked him out from shame and she would still had a home. Sorry but if you play games like this, is there any excuse for arrogance?
Lisa

13 August 2011

i think those that are up for eviction should take the council to the european court of human rights
joe mcknight

13 August 2011

I wonder how many people who say that the parents are partly responsible as they brought up the alleged "rioter" know exactly what their own children get up to. Collective punishment might make baying reactionaries out for revenge happy for a short while but it's going to make things worse and is not a solution at all - it's just dumb.
Glenn Williams

13 August 2011

So where do the family go? Are their problems solved or made worse? Do they become more dependent or less? What happens to the education of other children/young people in the family? How much more involved in society do the family become-or not? And is double punishment ever just? This is not to condone violence on our streets. But retribution of this kind doesn't engage anyone further-it alienates and simply relocates the problem onto someone esle's doorstep and we all end up paying.
Anne Reyersbach

13 August 2011

This is just outright cruelty to pacify a reactionary press. The boy did something wrong and yes, he should expect to be punished. To punish the entire family is wrong. If they are branded and making themselves intentionally homeless this will affect their prospects of finding private accomodation too. You are making a terrible situation even worse. I urge you to reconsider and use your better judgement in this.
Andy H

13 August 2011

I wonder whether your legal advisors have ever studied th human rights act? You may wish to consider article 8? You should also consider that under the rule of law it is for the judiciary to hand out punishment, not politicians. Finally, even if the move to evict this family weren't illegal and against the rule of law, there has not been a conviction yet and it is a fundamental principle of this country that you are innocent until proven guilty (articles 6&7 of the hra are referred). I suggest you stop wasting money on legal fees and spend it on cleaning up.
Ruth hewitt

13 August 2011

This 18 year old 'child' should suffer like his victims. A pity his father has to be punished as well, but I am sure he must be partly resposible for bringing up a son like that. No doubt there will be discussions between them. The son may now consider the consequences of any future loutish behaviour. This should be given the widest publicity.
Richard S

13 August 2011

The 'child' in question is 18!! I'm sorry, but when my children were 18 I didn't have much control over where they were or what they did. I just hoped that all the previous years of parenting would stand them in good stead. You cannot punish the mother of an 18 year old adult. Will the millionaire father of Laura Johnson be punished also? This is just bullying reactionary rubbish that's hitting the easy targets. Shame on you Wandsworth council.
Suzanne

13 August 2011

These actions shame London and are completely counter productive. I'm sure some council official gets to feel like a big man for this but really they are petty minded and vindictive doing something that does nothing to prevent further rioting and punishes those who were not responsible. What a disgrace.
jim jepps

13 August 2011

Wandsworth are taking action against "members of the household(s)..." of those responsible for the rioting. Why stop there? why not their neighbours, too? The mindless hatred and contempt of those who support this right-wing lunacy really shines through in their posts. I suspect this is empty posturing and will fizzle out, but if not I hope it means the end of this cretin Govindia's career.
gary molloy

13 August 2011

Sorry UK but there are too many bleeding heart liberal comments when a council wishes to do something decisive. I am an ex-pat. who has to face my neighbours with the shame of being English after these terrible events. Social deprivation is just another excuse. These people live in a society that in world terms means that their living standards are at the top of the tree and they have the opportunity to improve them. They will not do this by biting the hand that feeds them. I am sure that UK law will not allow summary justice and that there will have to be sound grounds for eviction. If there are why not evict them? Why subsidise the housing of people that only wish to destroy? I am sure that they can do no more damage from the street than
Bob Jackson

13 August 2011

Don't do the crime if you can't dothe crime. You wanna loot and rob, pay the price. That child should have been at home, but decided not to. Those parents should have enforced discipline, but didn't. Enough is enough! Well done Wandsworth! chuck 'em all out!
runskippyrun

13 August 2011

Wandsworth is so proud of its no crime- safest place in the world to live propaganda that it has found itself having to be seen to take action. It has a culture in the work environment that is as disgusting as what took place. Unless you have walked a week in these youths (or jd sports) shoes or trainers, dont judge them. Govinda is obviously in line for a knighthood and a highly paid 'political appointment' as Lister was at GLA through his mate BJ. Perhaps his brown nosing will backfire. Best debate I saw on this whole issue was on BBC3 last night. The youth of this country have so much to offer and say but with no employment or hope for the future are kettled.
tim

13 August 2011

not in my name. Short sighted, incendiary nonsense
Sean Fraser

13 August 2011

Wandworth Council, you cannot be serious!! What will this prove? Where will they go? It's counter productive and reminiscent of Nazi Germany. You are no better than the people you are trying to punish.
Suzanne

13 August 2011

This is a bad bad move. What are you trying to achieve exactly? Can you deal with the repercussions? Are you just concerned with being seen to be tough on these people? Have you thought how this will affect younger siblings of the people involved in riots? I am glad I don't live in Wandsworth. I live in Lewisham and hope they do not intend to adopt such a counterproductive and destructive policy.
anna scott

13 August 2011

Counterproductive and I suspect illegal. I notice that the same doesn't apply to council tenants "charged" NOT convicted with other crimes. So pleased I no longer live in Wandsworth.
J McCulloch

13 August 2011

Hooray !!
D. Wright

13 August 2011

I just wonder if anyone at WBC will read these many responses? The BBC reports that, " Conservative-run Wandsworth Council has issued an eviction notice to a council tenant whose son has appeared in court charged in connection with Monday night's disturbances in Clapham Junction." I hope Ravi Govindia has considered the cost of any legal challenges to this. Mark my word, there will be some.
Celia Blair

13 August 2011

This is a fatuous piece of media posturing. No such eviction will take place because the law does not allow it under such circumstances. Dealing with a fracture in society by widening it further is a dim policy anyway. Build up local communities, help the looted shops back on their feet, get the police out of their bunker.
Ralph Lucas

13 August 2011

This is utterly disgusting. Throwing someone out on the street because of the actions of her son? How is this even remotely fair? For all the council knows, the son could be completely uncontrollable. What good is this going to do? We will just end up with a larger problem of homeless people and there will be even more rioting.
Steve Jameson

13 August 2011

This is discrimination. Everyone should be punished by the court according to their part. The government or council should not start dishing out additional punishment. UNLESS... They could do it every one of the rioters. You cant just pick on the ones that live in social housing (because you can) For some extra punishment. Social housing is not a privelge given to poor people. Its not free. Unless on benefits, then life is harsh enough. Why arent you satisfied that the courts will give out harsh enough punishment. Plus theyll have criminal records too. Do you want to torture them. Why just the ones in social housing then. All those who lost financiallly are to be reimbursed by government (ie.tax payer) So theyll be ok.
marsha

13 August 2011

what another waste of taxpayers money by this posturing counsel. It will cost a fortune by the time its been through the counsels own system, then the legal challenge, then if needed the European human rights process. l bet the counsel members would run a mile if they had to foot the bill personally
alexander taylor

13 August 2011

Highly rewarded council officers who cream it in both during employement and retirement advising whet behind the ear councillors! WBC are the role model for all the tory propaganda and sleaze at Westminster- yet never any problems there. Why- because they keep it internal. Disgusting behaviour. Sort out your own house before you evict, or are responsible for driving people from theirs.
Ed

13 August 2011

Well well well, you poms are the biggest bunch of losers I have had the misfortune of having to deal with, If a house hold (parents) of said accused minor are incapable of disciplining the accused these riots my never have taken place. Do you think he/she bothered to stop and think about the consequences of there actions..... NO Catch a wake up you numb nuts...... your first world country is fast becoming a 3rd world country. Haven't you learnt anything from history..... oops sorry most of you blithering idiots did not attend school, to busy smoking dope and stuffing up your kids futures, now look what they have done......
Tombstone

13 August 2011

This is so sad... worst than the riots is the reaction people is having to them. Racism, extended exclusion. So you're going to get a family homeless now, well done, that is going to sort all problems, that is exactly what we need. God, you make me feel sick, you are the ones who make me loose all hope in humanity, not the rioters. You should be ashamed of yourself. I just can hope that one day you realize how this decision is making things worst. And you are part of making world a little bit worst. Congratulations.
Tina

13 August 2011

So long as they do not get dumped in private rental, to plague their decent neighbours.
Matt

13 August 2011

Evict your Council for dereliction of duty and anti social behaviour. They are all fully supporting government cuts to People and Community. This is a unity call. Wandsworth Council have served an eviction notice on a mum who's son was involved in trouble. There is a event in Wandsworth on the 18th see FB events. The real criminals are the Government and council. If you want to report a crime, go to the police and report MPs for War Crimes http://lexisweb.co.uk/acts/2001/international-criminal-court-act-2001-2001-c-17/52-conduct-ancillary-to-genocide-etc-committed-outside-jurisdiction
Peoples Assembly

13 August 2011

So let me get this straight, Wandsworth Council have not waited until the gentleman in question is found guilty in a court of law? This move does seem ill-thought out and I'd assumed would be open to legal challenge. While I have to ask if Cllr Govindia really is happy that he is now making an 8 year old girl homeless? Cllr Govindia are you proud of that fact?
Sam Anon

13 August 2011

Have any of these people been convicted, or is this action premature? Who has declared that the boy was a rioter? What in what their child did makes his parents people who have commited violent crimes, shown no consideration to ther neighbours, or harassed, threatened, intimidated or caused disturbance to others? What gives the council the right to punish the entire family in this way by threatening to deprive them of shelter?
anwaya

13 August 2011

For those of you who seem to think this is "brilliant" you fail to see the bigger picture. All of us hard working taxpayers will pay for them to go into emergency accomodation and will pay extra for their private housing! Never mind storage for their possessions. Council tax will rise. What they did was wrong but I for one will not be paying the extra on top of trying to repair this country for the very, very wrong reaction of a council. They are only trying to keep in with the government's attempt to prove they have control of this country. You think the government & councils dont know about the gang mentality? You really think this will stop it? The 8yr old will grow up hating the society who failed to protect them!
Allison

13 August 2011

Call me stupid, but isn't throwing these people out onto the streets going to make them more likely to cause unrest?
Ben

13 August 2011

Sorry Paul, forgot the second part, like you forgot the part about sparing the rod and spoiling the child. Lack of discipline does have its ramifications on more than just the child involved. As you can well see, it affects your entire community; with your riots, and your possible subsequent evictions from community subsidised housing. But we can't put the djinni back in the bottle, now, can we? What consequence do you feel best fits this betraying of the community?
orin

13 August 2011

this is a callous abuse of government powers and a violation of human rights , you have broken the golden rule of social housing and should be ashamed of yourselves.
Amias Channer

13 August 2011

The councillor is starting down a route that could lead to further troubles and even lead to personal reprisals, he should be more circumspect about his pandering for votes.
roger hudson

13 August 2011

Surely the place for dealing with issues of crime and punishment is a law court. I am not aware of any case where that responsibility has been handed to councils. Let's say you get away with it and turf out this family, but find that some rioters in your own community are privately housed or home owners. You can't kick them out - and that by definition is innately unjust. The argument you use, supported by your POLITICAL ally David Cameron is that Social Housing, being subsidised is a privilege. Yet, by definition a council tenant has to demonstrate privation and need in order to get housing in the first place. You are penalizing the deprived and the innocent (the parents) all at once. And you are wasting your own Council Tax payers cash.
Paul Sharp

13 August 2011

This action by the council must surely be excessive. To penalise a family because of the action of an under age person charged but not even convicted of a crime is absolutely out of order. The council still has a duty to house them. I think the 6 month jail sentence for a student convicted of stealing some bottled water valued at £3.50 is also over the top, is excessive and unreasonable. A community service order to get him to help repair the damage would be much more fitting. The actions of Wandsworth Council is starting to make me think that if this is the Britain of today, I am not sure if I want to stay here. They will be transporting people to the colonies for life for stealing a loaf of bread next.
Peter Morris

13 August 2011

To demonise and disenfranchise people by making them homeless, is wrong both morally and ethically. Evicting people ip the beginning of the end. c
Carole

13 August 2011

Congratulations your knee jerk popularist action will get you fined and forced to pay compensation you are evicting a entire family because a single member of that family has committed a "alleged crime" by doing this you will leave yourselves open to a breach Article 8 and 14 ECHR as by evicting the whole family the innocent members of the family will be having their article 8 rights breached and you will be discriminating against them under article 14 ECHR. you are breaking human rights legislkation with your actions.
Rob

13 August 2011

I'm disgusted by this action by Wandsworth Council. It is without justification and morally repugnant.
Patrick Ward

13 August 2011

This is a truly despicable action of threatening a family to become homeless. Perhaps they actually need some HELP or support?? Did you not think of that??
Juliet

13 August 2011

Just adding my voice to those currently reminding you that actions based on nothing but a desire for vengeance have no place coming from a UK council. Please have some backbone, stand up to the people who are yelling for blood, and stick to punishing the rioters in ways that aren't going to make things worse for everyone.
Josie

13 August 2011

What revolting behaviour from Wandsworth Council. To throw a family out on the street for the actions of one of them? That's barbaric. You should be ashamed of yourselves. You're an embarrasment to our city.
Josh Murchie

13 August 2011

He's been *accused* of rioting. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Disgraceful. I suppose, also, it would be entirely in keeping with Wandsworth's housing policy, that once these people are homeless, you'll farm them out to some other London borough, like Tower Hamlets etc. Somewhere else's council tax payers are going to pick up the bill for this stupidity. Are you going to evict every single one of your residents who are *accused* of participating in the riots? Is this in fact a covert budget cutting measure?
T Smith

13 August 2011

Shame on you!
grumpyb0b

13 August 2011

This is terrible. I hope this family get decent legal advice to defend themselves against your action. At the very least you should wait to see if the boy is convicted. I've heard you say you will rescind the eviction notice if he is acquitted- but what if the eviction happens first, and an acquittal months later?
rufus green

13 August 2011

Interesting how fiddling hundreds of thousands of pounds of tax-payers money with illegal expenses claims doesn't render you homeless. What about all the other convicted rapists, murderers, nonces and muggers living in Wandsworth? Have they also been made homeless under these new (illegal) eviction conditions?
Sir Thomas

12 August 2011

Re Laura Hill, London, As someone involved in housing law also, you are right in many ways, unless there is a pattern of behaviour. The housings acts are quite clear for obvious reasons that one tenant ruining the lives of others prevents the others from having quiet enjoyment of their tenancy.
Benedict White

12 August 2011

You do know that no judge in the land will uphold this notice, don't you (and I speak as a housing lawyer)? Congratulations on wasting a whole load of time and money.
Laura Hill

12 August 2011

This is a disgusting action which discriminates against the poor (better-off rioters not in social housing will not be punished in this way). Are you going to put children on the street because their elder brother got involved in looting? I believe such punishment is illegal under numerous parts of international law.
Robin Yu

12 August 2011

Sometimes people do stupid things, but you can see a perverse reasoning in it. Instead this eviction is stupid for the sake of being stupid. Stop and think for a minute before you ruin peoples' lives. How will homelessness make things any better for these people? If I was kicked out of my home by the council I know I'd not take it lying down, it would just make me angrier.
Calum

12 August 2011

Orin, it was me who mentioned the "sins of the father". If you had actually bothered to check the quote (I even cited it as Ezekiel 18:20), you would have seen that it says: "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son." Maybe you should get your facts right before posting in future.
Paul Gardner

12 August 2011

No we dont want more homeless people, we want people who contribute to society and realise how lucky they are to live in Wandsworth where we have the lowest council tax in the country and true value for money from the council, we dont want people causing us to dilute this. If thats not enough they should go elsewhere, there are plenty of other places in the world ! I'm glad that the council have such high standards. The kindness and decency of this country has been taken advantage of for long enough, the gravy train is over and its time to stop this farce- well done Wandsworth !
Tracy Scott

12 August 2011

Interesting. People live in a home subsidised by the community, and said people brutalise the very community who are helping to foot the bill. Someone complained about punishing the father for the sins of the son. Sorry. Parents are responsible for the offspring. You don't visit the sins of the Father on the Son. I think you had it backward. While making people homeless isn't a viable solution and folk do need to be found guilty before punishment is meted out, perhaps a round of public humiliation for the guilty? Then give them rubbish bins, brooms to sweep up. Tooth brushes to scrub up the mess, make them make it right.
orin

12 August 2011

Brilliant!
Huge Montgomery-Massiveknob

12 August 2011

Has this person already been found guilty by the courts and sentenced? If not, is the Blighted Borough not jumping the gun a bit?
Longtime resident

12 August 2011

I fail to see what this will achieve and whether this decision will be upheld by the courts. I think it will potentially cost the tax payer alot of money. You are simply giving into a mob mentality. If the family register as homeless, a local authority somewhere will have to pick up the pieces. As politically oportunistic as the looters on the street. I'm disgusted.
Charlotte Keith

12 August 2011

who does this action help, exactly? what does it solve? furious my council tax is being used to deliberately make families homeless.
J Bellanich

12 August 2011

'Sippenhaft' was collective punishment practiced by Nazis. Are you proud to be following that path? Gesture politics is for simpletons. Get a grip.
Clare

12 August 2011

100% support to wandsworth council for this move! Govt doesn't have to help people who tried to destroy their own town!
westlondoner

12 August 2011

Knee jerk reactions, totally out of order. If I remember rightly didn't the students riot last year, where Prince Charles and wife were attacked in his car.Iif you measure it up somebody should have had thier head cut off at the tower of london then!
Shaun

12 August 2011

Well done Wordsworth council!
lynsey ache

12 August 2011

This kind of grandstanding stupidity will solve nothing.
Andrew Fowler

12 August 2011

I wholeheartedly agree, you need to make an example of a few of these idiots so they all get the message, parents are responsible for their children. It's a shame this comments page is being hijacked by the so called 'greens'.
Steven

12 August 2011

Well done wandsworth council on trying to evict the rioter. Fully support you.
SKS

12 August 2011

Well done wandsworth council on trying to evict the rioter. Fully support you.
SS

12 August 2011

Well done..people like this should not be living amongst decent people.The rioting was mindless,spinless thieving..So they become homeless..and!!. ...Maybe they will realise that the tax payers are sick of having to support the scum and blood suckers that walk around in £120 trainers,have money to smoke drugs,dont pay back anything to society. When they have done the sentence or been fined...no laying around..get them camoflaged up and ship them out to Afganistan,lets see how brave you are then!!One of the first to be charged in London was a school teacher.so its not all people who are below the poverty line...but still scum.Time we were birching criminals and bringing punishment back to school
G.Fowlie

12 August 2011

It is outrageous that you are evicting someone whose son is suspected of stealing. Wandsworth Council has never bothered to involve itself in the wellbeing of residents on the estates before. I lived in Albon House on the arndale estate for 18 years. The last 5 years I lived there the estate was torn apart by drug dealing, prostitution and violent crime. Despite the residents complaints, the council refused to evict the drug dealers. People were injured, and people died, yet the council refused to intervene. I left in 2003 as I was afraid for my life and the lives of my family members. If Wandsworth would like to make a difference I suggest it starts by listening to residents. This story is a self-serving publicity stunt.
Carly

12 August 2011

I will add my disbelief to that of many of the posts below that the council would move to evict the mother of someone who has been charged in relation to the riots. Firstly, a mother is as responsible for her child's actions as much as the community that child grew up in is responsible and so perhaps the council ought first to look at itself. Secondly, by punishing and excluding the child and his family, we are sending a message that they are not wanted and are not part of our society. These are some of the issues that lie at the heart of why children were acting in ways so abhorrent to society; they do not feel like they belong. Perhaps we should be addressing that before we further condemn the condemned.
Krishna Sivakumaran

12 August 2011

sorry but your wrong and so is the law,in any other country this would be seen as social and/or ethnic cleansing.this country is supposed to be against that type of thing but apparently not.as a father of a 19 year old who still lives at home we cannot tie them up that is against the law,and as far as i know once they reach 17 they are responsible for their actions not the parents.you the government and the law as actually taken the rights of the parent away our hands are tied when it comes to discipline,i do not and will not condone what as happened recently,but there is a time when the authorities need to take a step back and think is it right to punish a whole family due to one bad apple.
paul gregory

12 August 2011

Well done. Parents are responsible for the behaviour of their children. Next time they will think before they have to move again.
Adrian

12 August 2011

Can we evict our MP's as well since they were caught thieving not long ago?
I M

12 August 2011

Interesting that most are assuming that the tenants in question are living below the poverty line because they are in council housing, yet there is no information to suggest that in the article. There is nothing to suggest they will end up homeless, they will just have to find alternate accommodation. Also, how old is the son? If the son is still classed as a child then the parents should still be responsible for that child, including being responsible for his actions. Where were the parents while the child was out participating in the riots?
Bob W

12 August 2011

If you are basing the Notice seeking possession on one act I rather suspect that the district judge will tell you to get lost and quite rightly too. If it turns out that there were many acts you may get your order, or possibly a suspended one. In any case, if you are the tenant and are having trouble getting advice, email me, I have had some personal experience of this area of law. If you know them also do the same. Google my name you find my blog at no1 with an email address as well.
Benedict White

12 August 2011

I'm absolutely disgusted with my council for taking this action. The boy hasn't even been convicted yet and you've already judged him and more importantly his family which may include other children. Even if he is found to be guilty, what gives you the right to impose such a disproportionate and arbitrary additional punishment? He will be tried in court and punished accordingly and that should be the end of the story. We should be thinking about how we re-engage young people and help vulnerable families not actually adding to family breakdown and increasing community anger. It's a nasty mean political trick Wandsworth and people will see through it. Shame on you.
Steve Cobbett

12 August 2011

So by this logic, if a man is convicted of beating his wife, you'd evict her from her council house for violating her tenancy agreement? Ever heard of Sippenhaft?
Paul

12 August 2011

Everyone else has said it all already. Disgusting behaviour from those meant to be setting the example. Let's hope the judge does better than you.
kat sumner

12 August 2011

" Innocent till proven guilty", being charged is not the same as being found guilty. Why does the new leader of the council feel the need to be the first to do this? Why did he also support charging children to play in Battersea Park? I suspect there will be another retraction very soon. I hope Govindia has considered the legal costs to take this through all its procedures.
Celia Blair

12 August 2011

Well done, this is a start. It is not a right but a privilege to occupy social housing. I know social housing is not of a high standard but it is not a right given at birth. The world owes you nothing and to get something out of the social system you must make a positive contribution rather than 'take, take, take'. There are genuine people with hardships that deserve to be helped but there is also the 'undesirable' side of social claimants that do nothing but steal oxygen. If you are over the age of 18 and have been convicted of an offence related to these disgusting antics then you should lose you right to occupy social housing housing, whether as a tenant or as an adult dependant of a tenant. No if, no buts buts.......GONE
Liam

12 August 2011

I wanted to add that the intention to garner headlines based on mis information is further illustrated by the deliberate mistitling of this article. How silly does it make Wandsworth look if their level of intelligence and judgement is to say: First rioter given eviction notice When the truthful and accurate heading should be: Evictions notice service on parent(s) of boy charged with offence but not yet convicted. What a waste of council money and time. I hope all your rate payers ask for a rebate to the equivilent level of the legal fees you are going to have to pay as you get dragged through every court in this country and probably into the court of human rights. It is for the courts to punish any one actually convicte
C. Knight

12 August 2011

Absolutely disgusting. You should let the legal system deliver justice - why exasperate a problem? Presumably you will also be evicting murderers, sex-offenders and anyone else with a criminal record? Shameful !
Emma Russell

12 August 2011

I've just seen a Wandsworth Councillor on TV being interviewed and he made himself look a complete idiot when asked how they could start proceeding when the child concerned hasn't even been convicted. Also he clearly doesn't know his facts see http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-can-councils-convict-and-evict-rioters/7526 Talk about an own goal. Just only adds to the impression that Tories are the mindless thugs. And to all of you who have gone this'll teach them. Grow up. An eye for an eye went out with the ark. None of us know the circumstances of the household concerned and we and the council should wait to find out. Such sloppy actions raises questions about your competence.
C. Knight

12 August 2011

I think the council are making the right decision. I have worked all my adult life and have struggled to pay my mortgage whilst bringing up two children. I nearly lost property during the previous recession but had to borrow more money agains my home as I would have never qualified for a council property. My husband and I will never be able to repay this do will have to sell when we are in our late 60's. Where do we go? These criminals gay away with everything paid for them. They do not have to work as most get everything paid for from my taxes, my parents and grandparents alike. Where's my help? I would like to live in London but can't afford to.
Denise Withrington

12 August 2011

Maybe a hasty decision if not yet proven guilty.However if found guilty, then well done Wandsworth.I'm sure if they are evicted,then some of you liberal do-gooders (who have a lot to answer for the state of this country over the last few years)will no doubt be queueing to put this family up,or others like them.....or perhaps not?The parasitic scum who have caused this mayhem over the last few days have no rights-so who honestly gives a t**s about their welfare?Welcome to post riot Great Britain!
ROBIN TYLER

12 August 2011

Terrible decision. Utterly counterproductive and a total waste of public funds at a time of austerity! Surely you could work constructively with this family instead of evicting them. In fact for what you'll be spending in legal fees you could fund some positive work in youth and community services.
Deb W

12 August 2011

Fantastic. For the evicted - tough **** to be honest. Time for these people to take a bite of reality and get real. They cannot carry on like this. Not an ounce of sympathy for them. Well done Wandsworth Council.
Jon

12 August 2011

Absolutely scandalous lack of proportionality. Are all council tenants who get in trouble with the law to be evicted? This boy has not even been convicted and the council is taking the law into its own hands. Let the law take its course.
Fiona

12 August 2011

Good call. The best borough in London, keep London tidy.
Luke

12 August 2011

I am sorry but this is ridiculous, it is a kneejerk reaction. Those convicted will get their punishment, as per the law. How is it helpful to evict entire families, this is collective punishment. It is counterproductive, making these families homeless will marginalise them even more, it means their children have to move to different schools, and they will have to be re-housed. What you are doing is a disproportionate punishment of entire families, which helps no one. Sorry, I live in the area, and what you are doing is wrong. And it’s unbelievable that you should start evictions before the people have even been convicted.
Lila

12 August 2011

Shame on you Wansdworth Council for this disgusting behaviour. People found to have been involved in rioting and looting will already face the law, We as a society do not need this kind of vindictiveness making things worse, which it will surely do. What can it possibly achieve that will be positive? Perhaps Wandsworth councillors need evicting from their elected positions.
Dhanesh Ratnaike

12 August 2011

This is outrageously draconian. The families of these law-breakers have done nothing wrong. Why are these innocent people losing their homes? The lawbreakers rightly should be punished, but to punish those associated with them is just awful. Shame on you. Shame.
Rory Buckeridge

12 August 2011

This is abhorrent, disgusting, criminal behaviour. You tiny moronic people for thinking that this is any sort of solution. You engender and perpetuate the very culture of fear and antagonism which caused this disorder in the first place. How is evicting innocent people from their homes any different to the torching of those homes during the riots? The only difference is that Wandsworth are a public body bound to represent the interests of its residents. Now they are as base and criminal as those it uses to justify this social 'cleansing'.
Thomas Yeomans

12 August 2011

So can we assume, Wandsworth, you'll be also be evicting the families of people convicted of murder, rape, robbery, sexual assault, etc etc? Because god forbid this is a knee-jerk reaction.
Michelle Buckeridge

12 August 2011

How will making this family homeless improve their situation or that of others?
Jeanne Hendry Hawkins

12 August 2011

Is serving an eviction notice before conviction legal? Threatening to evict a family from their home on the basis of the unproven action of one person is draconian, unfair and inhumane. How can this possibly help to mend anything?
sarah watts

12 August 2011

So, making a poor family homeless as well as poor will make it less likely that a crime is committed!? The people responsible for this haven't got the brains they were born with!
Stephen Kelly

12 August 2011

What utter tosh! Seriously, are you going to evict the families of every criminal? Collective punishment is it? What the hell has the dad actually done? Perhaps you should evict all the relatives of every murderer, robber, tax evader, benefit dodger, shoplifter, school bunker. After all it's obviously the parents fault. Seriously shame on you!
robin

12 August 2011

Collective punishment is a war crime under the Geneva Convention. What is your eviction policy as regards families of murderers or rapists? Hopefully, whoever came up with this disgusting idea (whether on the back of an over-emotive public outcry or not) will probably have to spend quite some time explaining themselves to the Human Rights courts. In the long run, it probably would've just been better NOT to attempt reactionary, emotionally-led, and unjust persecution of entire families. Good luck with the fascism Wandsworth.
Patrick

12 August 2011

I don't understand how an eviction notice can be served before the person has even been found guilty. Why hasn't this decision waited until the facts are known and a verdict reached first?
Lynne

12 August 2011

Mad vindictive medieval punishment. You will be burning witches next
Norman Biddlecombe

12 August 2011

Does this mean that anyone with a criminal record or who obtains a record while in council housing is going to be forced out of their house? What is the difference between this crime, which is being treated as burglary by the courts, and any other crime committed on any other other occasion. You are setting a very dangerous president. If you are trying to catch the tail of a political mood then you are not worthy to call your selves councillors. This is a disgrace. How is this going to help London. And when did we loose innocent till proven guilty. This will only make matters worse. Please stop this outrageous action or not in my name.
Richard Penny

12 August 2011

Woo hoo! Go Wandsworth Council. I felt both deeply frightened and sickened by the events of Monday night. It was so sad to see so many young people, who should have been at home with their parents, behaving like feral dogs. Had my child not been in my home on Monday night, I would have gone down to Clapham to drag them back by the ear! For too long have these "parents" willfully neglected their responsibilities towards their children, with the result that these children do not know right from wrong. Well done Wandsworth Council for making them accountable for their failure to parent!
Putney dog lady

12 August 2011

I fully support this!
G G

12 August 2011

Absolutely Despicable! The law should be used and only the law. Piling on additional penalties when it suits a council politically should be illegal.
Charlie Kiss

12 August 2011

Yeah evict them! That'll keep him of the streets.
David

12 August 2011

This is shocking, dispicable and shameful. I hope the council will see sense and withdraw the eviction notice.
Nandini Nayak

12 August 2011

Disgraceful, short sighted and counter productive.What on earth will this achieve? Wandsworth should be ashamed. Jerks.
Chris Melvin

12 August 2011

This is disgusting. I cannot think how this will help at all. There is literally no reason this should be done. It's completely reactionary and pandering to a group of people who appear to be as unable to figure out the consequences of their actions as the looters are. These people will be homeless and you can bet if this kid loots he's not going to sit on the streets and wait to die, not to mention his innocent parent. Absolute disgrace.
annie

12 August 2011

Good. Well done Wandsworth. I expect no Labour council would ever evict any criminal. Since they do look after their core voters.
Ethan

12 August 2011

My apartment complex has recently evicted FIFTEEN-yipes-families for things their family members have done to break rules. Some of these families had elderly grandmothers who seem ready to choke the ones causing them to lose their home. Yes, throw the bums out.
Mom

12 August 2011

Utterly moronic.
Chris

12 August 2011

Disgusting that council should choose to add to punishment inflicted by the law. Don't see crooked politicians being made homeless when convicted and tax dodgers and phone hackers get invited to Downing Street and offered top jobs. No justice for the poor.
Peter Underwood

12 August 2011

Where will they go when evicted? How does this help stop their son's criminal behaviour? Force their son to repay their debt to society by carrying out community service, sure - but don't evict them from their home!
Mike Peel

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth! The liberal apologist handwringers seem to think we should just continue to allow feral hood rats to do what they want from a base in the borough is part of the problem, as are they. Parents have a responsibility to ensure their darling offspring act within the bounds of decent moral behaviour, indeed thats part of the leasing arrangements. Its not anyone elses problem when they breach their contracts and who actually care what happens to them afterwards? And why should they? They can go live under a motorway bridge, drink sewage water, get infested with fleas and develop TB. Until they behave like decent normal humans i think its fair to say they can rot in hell. Hope their looting was "worth" the fire thats comi
Antiscum

12 August 2011

This policy is an utter disgrace. No-one has been convicted yet. Making a woman homeless because her son is accused of a crime is hardly fitting. I look forward to seeing you evict every tenant who commits any offence, or are you just singling out this tenant? Knee-jerk reaction,a clearly ill thought out policy. Am looking forward to the intense embarrassment you will suffer when you are forced to backtrack on this one.
A Hoyte

12 August 2011

I really don't think there are words for how appalingly cruel and stupid this action is. I pay you tax, Wandsworth Council, and I expect you to spend some of it on housing people - all people who need it - even if those people aren't people you like.
Sarah

12 August 2011

Let's punish criminals' families! It's like I'm really in 200 AD. Seriously this is one of the most ridiculous backwards things I have ever seen in this country.
Thisguy

12 August 2011

An utter travesty. Wandsworth council and anyone supporting collective punishment for guilt by association should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Ravi Govindia, you have shown yourself to be the most pathetic human being involved in the whole sorry affair, from the shooting of Mark Duggan to the inevitable legal overturning of your shameful show-eviction. You make me sick.
karl brown

12 August 2011

This is the worst kind of populism. I can see why you're so keen to be doing something, but I really don't think that making a family homeless is going to do any good in the long run. The poor mother didn't commit any crime whatsoever. Pretty disgusting to be playing politics with people's lives in this way.
Alex Leonhardt

12 August 2011

Whilst I was sickened to see the rioting, and believe that all those found guilty should be punished, I don't think it is right to hand out punishments that didn't exist before the crimes were committed. First-time offenders, who got caught up with the moment and stole from shops are receiving far bigger sentences and harsher punishment than people who have a backlog of crimes behind them. This kind of punishment is counter-productive and will leave many innocent people suffering because of the acts of family members. Surely it would be better to use this as a warning and if further crimes are committed, then the offender will be asked to leave the accmmodation only.
Mimi Jackson

12 August 2011

Be careful, we need to be able to reform people, how will this help change anything for the better?
Emma

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth Council. As for those commenting its ony fuelling the situation , you only just fuelling the Nanny State that ALLOWED THESE YOUTHS TO DO WHAT THEY LIKE!
Kyle

12 August 2011

I'm appalled and disgusted by this move, which is inhumane and, likely as not, counterproductive. Reverse this stupid and greatly harmful decision.
Lynn Hancock

12 August 2011

Kneejerk springs to mind. I feel that the councils should address the social problems that have massively contributed to the breakdown of these communities and leave the punishments for the police and courts to decide. This type of sledge hammer to open a walnut approach will only marginalies and force these individuals further away from mainstream society. Where will they all go ? I ask because the rich are not going to start letting affordable rooms or land to these people . Evictions will only create a deviant subculture that will stop at nothing to survive. The conservative and liberal elite are out of touch with the real issues on the streets of the UK.
Marvin

12 August 2011

Kneejerk springs to mind. I feel that the councils should address the social problems that have massively contributed to the breakdown of these communities and leave the punishments for the police and courts to decide. This type of sledge hammer to open a walnut approach will only marginalies and force these individuals further away from mainstream society. Where will they all go ? I ask because the rich are not going to start letting affordable rooms or land to these people . Evictions will only create a deviant subculture that will stop at nothing to survive. The conservative and liberal elite are out of touch with the real issues on the streets of the UK.
Marvin

12 August 2011

Disgraceful un-British behaviour by Wandsworth. Local Authorities should be setting a moral example at times like this, not kicking a family when it's down. Shame on you.
Steve Davies

12 August 2011

Well done wandsworth! Should extend it to all convicted criminals. Focus on the lower income folks who actually want to work and are grateful that the benefits and housing you provide, Those people that genuinely need help, i'm all for helping. Those scumbags that destroy the environment, well chuck them out, let them see how difficult life really is without everything paid for them.
rakesh patel

12 August 2011

I can't believe councils are actually doing this - a despicable, reactionary thing to do to impoverished people, it will only serve to make things worse.
Gemma

12 August 2011

Self-righteous Wandsworth Council are just pouring petrol on a difficult situation. How will it affect this (and any other) family in future? What about relatives of any criminals in council properties - are all their families going to be evicted while they are in prison? This is going to add to the homeless and add more people who have no stake in society. It's also stoking up trouble for the future.
Pat

12 August 2011

To all the people who think the councils actions are wrong should they up their benefits? Give them a free holiday & a pat on the back instead of eviction? Try living in the real world, no wonder this country is so soft! The parents DID play a part by not parenting the child & keep him in instead of letting him run wild with the rest of the animals! They made an agreement with the council & broke it. Why not grow some & realize they are criminals & should be punished for their actions. Any tax payer with any morals would not want these morons funded in any way by our taxes!
Tax payer & hard worker

12 August 2011

Will the council be evicting all tenants convicted of violent and or property related crimes? Is this even supported in Law?
Philip Squire

12 August 2011

I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way. You are saying why should they be made homeless, but its merely the support for housing that is being taken away. If they want to find private housing, noone is stopping them, and I'm sure suitable time will be given for them to find somewhere else to live. An I understand they may not be able to afford private housing without support, but to be honest, that's their own fault. If they acted more responsibly and didnt let their kids run riot, then this wouldnt happen. I for one do NOT want to be paying taxes knowing they are going towards helping families like this, especially while there are many GOOD families left WITHOUT support while people like this are getting the support.
Mike

12 August 2011

I agree with many of the comments. Making people (an entire family?) homeless is not a solution. If indeed he is found to be guilty (we're innocent until proven in our ancient democracy, right?), then suitable punishments which serve the community would surely be more productive. Will you be evicting all other tenants who have committed anti-social crimes?
Nina ISzatt

12 August 2011

This is an awful, unlawful and utterly foolish, heartless and thing to do that bare's all the hallmarks of reactionary, damaging actions that only make the situation much worse for everyone.
James

12 August 2011

absolutely shameful thing the council are doing
jay west

12 August 2011

Nice one wandsworth now they know what it be to be homeless after they burnt other people's homes and all there family pictures, if you don't like this then let them stay with you
Mark

12 August 2011

This is utterly barbaric and completely idiotic. The self congratulatory tone of the piece and the fact you proudly display in in the press section of this website revolt me utterly. How can an 11 year old avoid being swept up in such activity and how can he be expected to truly understand the consequences of his actions? How will making him (or her) homeless help in any way? And how on EARTH can you justify putting his largely blameless mother through such unfair and horrible stress? Also what on Earth is the legal precedent for evicting them in this case where the child: and we ARE talking about a child here- hasn't even been convicted?
Hilary Wardle

12 August 2011

Of everything that has happened in the last weeks this is the one that has made me the most ashamed to live in this country. When you dehumanise a section of society to such an extent that you legitimise taking away their basic human rights then you have lost the values that make a society worthwhile. Let's give those with no stake in society nothing to lose and let's put them and their families out on the streets with nothing but anger to feed them. You are the mindless ones- the ones with no humanity.
Sarah

12 August 2011

Wandsworth council are you completely stupid?Shocking! Then again you are the same borough charging people to use the children's playground. Talk about clawing in the pennies! Wake up! I hope the judge and legal system wipes the floor with your absurd 'emotion' driven intentions! You have non clue i suggest you get one!
Betty

12 August 2011

So are you also going to evict all those families of murderers and rapists? And how are you going to 'evict' those rioters who DONT live in council houses?? Bad bad idea.
http://mcneilio.wordpress.com/

12 August 2011

This is not going to help anything. It's going to increase their disillusionment with the state and drive them to MORE crime. Such a short term option, it's unbelievable. I'm disgusted.
Daniel Roberts

12 August 2011

What a completely disgusting reaction by the council. I am absolutely ashamed to live in a city where this kind of thing could happen.
Scott L

12 August 2011

Wandworth Council... The First Tea Party loons in the UK... God help us all
Jim

12 August 2011

Will the council also be removing people involved in the riots from houses they own or privately rent, or is it just council tenants who are losing their homes? And if you can be evicted for your son's participation, what about a close friend or a cousin? Where does it stop?
Kath Richardson

12 August 2011

Good! Parents should be responsible for their kids, and where they aren't should take the full brunt of the punishment. Why should tax payers be paying for this family, while their kids are out trashing the community? There is NO WAY they should be getting any sort of benefits if this is the way they treat society. Free up the housing for people who are responsible, and put families like this on the streets. Maybe it will help them buck up their ideas a bit. You all say that his father is innocent, but his children are his responsibility, and too many parents let their kids run wild. This may prompt people to realise the responsilities that come with having children.
Mike

12 August 2011

This is disgraceful pandering to an ill-thought out knee-jerk reaction, and will cause more problems than it solves.
Will

12 August 2011

In no way do I seek to excuse anyone involved in the violent disturbances in Clapham or elsewhere. However, the decison by Wandsworth Council to evict this tenant will prove to be totally counterproductive. How does making a family homeless solve anything at all? Surely, it will lead to more criminal behaviour by those concerned. Shame on Wandsworth Council.
Nigel Watson

12 August 2011

You have started the eviction process before any conviction. You say (elsewhere) this will be withdrawn if there is no conviction. But the tenant now has to deal with your notice, take legal advice, etc. This is grotesque. If this came to Court on Monday, a Judge would be very critical. You have abused your power by issuing a presumptuous notice.
Stewart J

12 August 2011

I think there's enough of us here who agree that there needs to be harsh punishment for those involved in the riots, but many of us also recognise that kicking people out of homes is not the way forward. It's clearly a knee-jerk reaction that will have worse long term results. Where ever these people end up they're likely to still have the mindset that lead to their behavior. All you've done is move it off your doorstep and into a different borough. In the long term you must know this wont help either us or London, which are still a part of. PUNISHMENT YES, BUT NOT LIKE THIS!!
Brook

12 August 2011

As a resident of Wandsworth borough I would like to express my utter contempt for this opportunistic, shallow piece of cynical populism by my local council. Putting to one side the moral dubiousness of punishing the relatives of those who have committed criminal acts, I cannot understand how making those who have been involved in the recent disturbances homeless can be expected to quell their resentment towards society or their alienation from those who are elected and paid to represent them. This is crass, short-sighted politicking of the lowest order and illustrates very clearly the moral vacuum and sheer vindictiveness against the most vulnerable members of society which lies at the heart of Conservative thinking. Disgraceful.
Des O'Loughlin

12 August 2011

Collective punishment, a favourite of occupying forces and inept and vindictive school teachers (and now Wandsworth Council), is outlawed by the Geneva Conventions. No, we're not at war, but the Geneva Conventions are considered to be the cornerstone of contemporary International Humanitarian Law. I feel an appeal coming on.
Nat

12 August 2011

I am sickened to see your eviction of a family because of the actions of a young person, it really shows the lack of care you have as an organisation for residents of your area. This sort of knee jerk reaction is never appropriate and I look forward to seeing your legal costs when the court of human rights finds against you
Cliff Masters

12 August 2011

This is appalling, punitive, nineteenth century style justice. This woman has commited no crime and yet faces being made homeless. Lots of people, including plenty of politicians, have children who are out of control but why should only council tennants be punished in this way. It mafia style justice ie we won't just get you we'll get your family too. This is scary very scary however angry people are they need to be very careful before throwing away civil liberties, basic freedoms and the fair exercise of justice which protects us all.
Rachel Ingleby

12 August 2011

This is a disgusting response. How do you get people off the streets by putting them on the streets. Even if you would like your blood lust quenched, the courts seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. Evicting a family is only going to cause local councils far more problems further down the road. No matter how you look at it, this is simply wrong. We must organise to prevent this from happening.
Joshua Towers

12 August 2011

I strongly disagree with this and any other evictions and urge you to reconsider.
mike bogucki

12 August 2011

Good. Taxpayers should not have to provide housing for anyone who chooses to betray this country.
Adele

12 August 2011

Well done for standing up for law abiding citizens!
Jon

12 August 2011

This is disgusting! George Osborne's brother is a drug dealer, will George be evicted from his tax payer funder residence?
Will Parker

12 August 2011

I'm the first to support tough action against rioters, but the way this release is written it seems you can be evicted by Wandsworth Council for simply being charged and appearing in court, regardless of any verdict, which is presumably still to come. If this defendant is eventually found not guilty, will the Council withdraw the eviction notice? You're setting yourselves up then for an embarrassing climbdown. Get tough by all means, but use due process. This looks too hasty, for PR reasons.
George Haystax

12 August 2011

Everyone is angry but making a family homeless for the crimes of their children is not going to help. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Your actions are medieval and barbaric and a bring shame on our country.
Tim Hardy

12 August 2011

Outrageous, vindictive and counterproductive. How does making people homeless help?
Dinah Winch

12 August 2011

Crazy crazy idea this will help no one nor stop any bad behaviour. It may cause more.
George Woodhouse

12 August 2011

I would rather you prosecute taxdodgers like Vodafone & Sir Philip Green for taxdodging, rather than persecute the mother of a child who was in a riot. Stop being jobsworths and assist people.
Raymond Obedencio

12 August 2011

Wow, what a breathtakingly counter-productive, inconsistent, arbitrary mis-step this is. Pre-judging the outcome of judicial proceedings and implicitly undermining the sentencing powers of the courts themselves in the name of jerking a knee faster and more recklessly than anyone else. A lot has been written about the supposedly unthinking, 'animal' impulses of the rioters over the past week. Idiotic, short-termist reactions such as this from Wandsworth Council demonstrate that sadly it is not only those looting and burning who are letting the vestiges of the old animal brain overwhelm their capacity for considered, rational action.
Sam

12 August 2011

I hope you are going to evict them all to Chipping Norton and such places? No, you'll send them back to poor areas and let us people deal with an increased problem. I can't wait for the benefits cuts as well so they can all turn to more crime. Typical out of touch politicians who don't have a clue what it's like to live with this sort of issue on your doorstep. Thanks for making a crap situation even worse. I hope Boris Johnson, David Cameron get evicted from London for their criminal activity in the Bullingdon club when they thought it was great to smash up restaurants and throw stuff through windows.
McCarthy

12 August 2011

I am shocked by this action by the council. The son has not at present been found guilty of any crime. Why are you making his family homeless?
Jenny Sheridan

12 August 2011

Shameful.
Lilly Hunter

12 August 2011

This is not justice and you know it! Please allow the court system to deal with any criminal offences in a way they are designed to work.
Act of Defiance

12 August 2011

'An eye for an eye only leads to more blindness.' (Margaret Atwood).
Sarah Cope

12 August 2011

There is no excuse for what the rioters have done over the past days, but there is lots of context to it. As much as I oppose the glorification of rioters as revolutionaries, it is just too simplistic and VERY dangerous to just criminalize them. Making a family homeless can not be the solution. I also do not think that putting people in prison for 6 months is a long term solution. Why not think of more creative solutions, like community service, for example? For both parents and kids if necessary. But just locking people away or evicting them is just going to make things worse.
Nadje Al-Ali

12 August 2011

Absolutely disgusting. Rioters should be punished, but not by evicting the entire family. I don't care whether it's within the law to evict them. It's morally wrong.
John

12 August 2011

Is Wandsworth Council being run by the Daily Mail now? What a counter-productive, knee jerk, idiotic response.
Lauren Smallcalder

12 August 2011

My local council (Salford) is also considering this. It is completely and utterly pathetic. Do these people even know how government is supposed to work? All caught up in a media frenzy and making rash desicions like this is idiotic, frankly. All it means is that they will have to find council housing in another neighbourhood, moving the problem not solving it. Terrible desicion by what is clearly a poorly run Council. If you evict them, then you MUST evict every single person who has committed an offence, whether it is related to the riots or not. Wandsworth Council, you make me ashamed to be British.
Phil

12 August 2011

This is excellent - providing eviction notices are served to those thieving ruling classes who claimed grace and favour homes whilst milking the people they were supposed to be serving.or would that be too much ask ?
David Lear

12 August 2011

*drug/alcohol abuse
Sam Ambreen

12 August 2011

This is excellent - providing eviction notices are served to those thieving ruling classes who claimed grace and favour homes whilst milking the people they were supposed to be serving.or would that be too much ask ?
David Lear

12 August 2011

Are you including the families of convicted terrorists, rapists, hackers, and financial fraudsters
Chris

12 August 2011

I hope some nice law firm will be taking the council to court. If the chaps name is not on the tenancy agreement do you really have a legal right to evict the rest of his family. Perhaps they are all lawless people who cause the community problems, but if that woman *is* totally law abiding it is totally unfair. I look forward to seeing the new shanty town on Wandsworth Common.
Diane Telford

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth, you are winning the race to the bottom! Shameful.
Penny Schenk

12 August 2011

Unfair, unjust and, I hope, unlikely to succeed.
P Pyke

12 August 2011

Surely collective punishment is contrary to international law.
Robert

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth Council, I hope other councils follow your lead!
Helen

12 August 2011

Are you aware of the problems associated with homelessness? Drugs/violence abuse, violence, theft.. You have taken the problem out of the house and onto our doorsteps. If other councils follow suit, there will be a homelessness epidemic, people sleeping on streets. Highly irresponsible and a sure fire way to escalate the crisis. The family should lodge an appeal and take the case to the court of human rights. We are not born with the task of proving we're human in order to acquire these rights, we are born human.
Sam Ambreen

12 August 2011

to whom it concerns, your rapid reactionary response to serev eviction notice on the family of a convicted looter, is vengeful, reactionary, counterproducticve and unjust. how can it be fair to add additional punishment to their sentence for council tenants, while home owners and millionaires daughter's cannot be dealt with in the same way? Have you any concern for the implications of family members, siblings, etc. who are dealt this new form of justice? Whilst evicting tenants in this febrile, bitter climate, how many families of murderers, rapists, paedophiles , abusers + others are rightly allowed to reside in council property in your borough? Do you really feel your rush to serve your vengeance is fair, just and humane?
john ingamells

12 August 2011

It is the role of the courts to administer justice. It is NOT the role of a council to punish the relatives of an offender over and above what the courts deem suitable punishment for the actual offender. This is disgraceful behaviour and demeans Wandsworth. Think again before it is too late.
M Turner

12 August 2011

As one of the 'Broom Army' and saw first hand what happened in clapham Junction, I can only Facepalm at this kneejerk reaction. How on earth is this going to help? Another family on the street. Isn't collective punishment on rather dodgy territory? Use you brains Wandsworth.
Gary Moon

12 August 2011

"how is it fair to punish the father for the crimes of the son?" It's common in many (first world) countries that parents of children that aren't considered of legal age to be held responsible for their crimes, will bare the punishment instead. It's based on the principle of being guilty for lack of proper education and supervision. I fully support this and I hope more similar things will happen in the future so that parents learn to properly manage their "streetwise" offspring.
Jimmy

12 August 2011

Rioter: 6 months for stealing £3-worth of water. Remind me, how much did Eric Pickles and Shirley Porter steal from the taxpayer? This is the worst sort of gesture politics -council yields to the baying mob (and I don't mean the rioters). Justice is for the courts, not for local government officers.
David Colquhoun

12 August 2011

Shame on Wandsworth Council and shame on Ravi Govindia.
A Collin

12 August 2011

What about rioters living in private accommodation? Can the government/local authority repossess their homes? Hopefully this will get laughed out of court!
Ivan

12 August 2011

Good work Wandsworth. Don't listen to all the bleeding heart liberal apoligists on your comments pages. The law abding majority are 100% with you on this. Parents need to start taking responsibility for the animals they call their children.
FonyBlair

12 August 2011

this will only incite resentment and anger in those sections of society who, because they have little,have the least to lose. si vis pacem,para bellum. Q
rory mckeown

12 August 2011

Those who commit offences do pay a price - they go to court and are duly sentenced. Why should those who are in council housing pay a second penalty - becoming homeless - which does not apply to criminals with the means to own their own homes? Does Wandsworth Council believe that there is no room on its estates for the innocent relatives of those who commit crimes? If it hopes to excuse itself with the notion that parents of criminals must be partially to blame, does it intend to apply the same judgement to the young siblings of convicted rioters? It is utterly unacceptable that innocent people should be used as chattel in attempts to punish others. All involved in the serving of this eviction notice should be deeply ashamed.
Jennie Kermode

12 August 2011

I can't believe that people are appalled at Wandworth Council for doing this. Why shouldn't those who destroyed other people's property without batting an eye lid have their property taken from them as they so absent mindedly took the property of others? I support the council 100%. Why should we support them with housing if they can't even respect the property of others? Perhaps this will teach them to earn what they are given, instead of just taking. I hope every other council affected by the riots takes note and follows in Wandsworth's footsteps.
Hannah

12 August 2011

Wonderful news.. anyone even connected to rioters are worse than paedophiles in my humble opinion.. they should be evicted and their children should be assaulted
abelard

12 August 2011

Can I just be clear on this: (a) you have decided that the child is guilty before he has been tried and (b) you think that making a family homeless because of the actions of a minor will avoid riots in the future? Could you please explain the thought processes behind this? Interesting, my captcha words are eVilow Schmitt, got a nice Teutonic ring like your actions
Niel Ackermann

12 August 2011

Not only is it disgusting that families are being punished for their children's actions, but this move is only going to be counter productive. Taking away all that some families have left is only going to incur greater cost to the taxpayer as they are made homeless and force more people into more serious crime, also costing the taxpayer and the community.
Janet

12 August 2011

Exactly like Israel treat the Palestinians, commit a crime, we'll bulldoze your house and your neighbours house. Ensuring the cycle of violence.
Ivan

12 August 2011

Atrocious, this is unfair, and how will it help anything?
Rachel

12 August 2011

Good - why should taxpayers subsidise this behaviour? Well done Wandsworth.
Nigel Salter

12 August 2011

Good work Wandsworth! This scum doesn't deserve citizenship, let alone a state house. Learn to raise your children.
JB - punishment matters

12 August 2011

Will the millionaire father of the daughter involved in the riots be kicked out of his house, cause he is exactly in the same boat as the person who's been evicted
amanda

12 August 2011

I agree this won't pacify the situation, & might exacerbate it, but it is ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING TO DO. It establishes and enforces boundaries, precisely what is lacking from the lives of those who participated in the riots. I do feel sorry for those who come from backgrounds where they never really had anyone truly on their side. No wonder people want to join a gang if that was their upbringing - people who never really cared about you, or cared about you so inconsistently that that care was hardly worth having. In a gang at least some one has your back - someone will fight for you right or wrong. Every human being on earth needs this. But the answer lies in hard hearts and tough love, not bleeding hearts & wimping out.
steve

12 August 2011

This is an utter disgrace. The Law courts are the place for Justice, Not the Local Council. Rioting & Looting are criminal offences and the perpetrator should be dealt with accordingly. This should not include retributive action against the family of the criminal or indeed the criminal themselves. Many MP's are guilty of looting via their expenses claims yet none of those faced similar kinds of prosecution. Wise up Wandsworth.
James Newton

12 August 2011

I don't live in Wandworth so I wasn't aware that there was a shortage of people living on your streets. Nor was I aware that there was a shortage of angry people down there. I have been lead to believe, over the last few days, that London has more than it's fair share of incredibly angry people. I must have been mislead. You know full well that this will not stand up in court & you will end up having to hand over a huge sum of money to this family in compensation. You will have angered everyone on both sides of the debate - for what? To make yourselves look big in front of the other councils? You are as pathetic as the morons who rampaged through the streets.
Mrs S

12 August 2011

Has anyone at the council ever thought about innocent until proven guilty? Or has anyone even thought?
Alistair Bull

12 August 2011

What is it with you muppets? The head of house (the father) had a contract with the local authourity to not allow antisocial behaviour to occur by any person in that house. As part of that 'contract' he received subsidised housing. We don't know what was said at court so cannot possibly know if he pleaded guilty or otherwise. As the local authourity have taken this stance, then we must 'presume' (and not assume) that he pleaded guilty. Thereby, the father has broken his contract with the local authourity and they are they are fully entitled to start eviction proceedings. It is not 'collective' punishment or whatever other nonsense you want to call it, it is the real world! It's the contracts & rules that a civil society demands.
Ain't Life Tough...

12 August 2011

This is utterly mad. How anyone could think that mass homelessness is the answer to crime, I don't know. To punish the father for the actions of the son is deeply immoral and, if applied across the country, would amount to a form of collective punishment.
Daniel Kocyz

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth Council. Time for these people to be made accountable for their actions. This man severely disrupted the lives of innocent people, so it's about time he saw the affects closer to home. He may not be guilty yet, but I'm sure the council wouldn't have acted without significant evidence against him. It's about time we stopped pussy footing around people who commit crimes, they will not learn from a prison sentence.
Kay

12 August 2011

Very dissappointed with the knee-jerk response on this matter.Surely Mr Govindia,who is of Asian origin,should have known better.Does he even know what it is like to be homeless ?Maybe ask a few of his relatives in India. What has the parent,who I assume is the tenant,done wrong in this ? Do you not realise that you are creating animosity and hatred in the community,which could subsequently lead to disaster ! Please immediately withdraw this action as a Council you are ruining not just one renegade youths life,but the entire family.I would be quite vengeful if that happened to me or any of my family.Wake-up and smell the coffee !"WITH THE PEOPLE for THE PEOPLE"
Ekbal Mogra

12 August 2011

I hope the tenant fights you every step of the way, all the way to the European Court of Human Rights if need be. You are punishing the father (or mother) for the sins of the son. This was unacceptable even in Biblical times (Ezekiel 18:20), let alone in a civilised industrial nation in the 21st century. What you are attempting to implement here was called "Sippenhaft" (kin liability) in Nazi Germany. There have been similar punishments in other totalitarian regimes including Stalin's USSR and China during the Cultural Revolution. Do you feel proud to be associating Wandsworth Council with such regimes?
Paul Gardner

12 August 2011

I agree they should be evicted, if they had brought the savage up properly they wouldn't now be reaping what they've sown. However, MP's have looted far more from ordinary citizens that these rioters ever did, all their punishment is (If they're caught) is to pay it back and carry on in their jobs. THAT is criminal.
Jane

12 August 2011

Can you confirm that you are evicting all relatives of other anti social crimes such as murder, rape etc - from their homes?
S Banfield

12 August 2011

How quick people are to defend the rights of those who do not respect the rights of others. With rights comes responsibilities, and this mother should have taken those on properly when her son was born so that he grew up to be a decent citizen. Why was he on the streets? Why couldn't she control his behaviour?. Parenting is hard work and requires effort to show results. No effort - no results - no rights. As a single mum myself I appreciate the help given by the State when needed but it cannot be all take - people have to give back to the community too. This family clearly did not believe that. She will now have to find private accomm and pay for it. Well done Wandsworth for your reality check.
jade richardson

12 August 2011

Though the council has the legal right to evict tenants, & there is justifiable anger at the violence & wanton destruction we've seen, there is a huge problem in evictions. If they are driven onto the streets by homelessness (who else will want them as tenants?) all that happens is we create feral gangs making our cities more dangerous. We will create a class of outcasts who will become outlaws, who will use violence to live, robbing, mugging, & much worse as they will have nothing to lose! Far better to establish tough routines, boot camp style, where they will learn discipline, to live within a civilised community, to be a part of society, tough stuff not the nanny state softie approach of the last 20-30 years!
Anne

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth Council, Hope those high up in the government learn from this and instead of dishing out all sort of benefits in order to buy public vote, which serves no purpose to the country but turning young people into baby producing machines, do something proactive to bring the society back on track of being responsible citizens who look forward to a bright future. i.e. provide benefit only for those who need it, and in return the recipients should provide community services, or attend training courses to learn a trade.
Amir Malek

12 August 2011

I feel this is a harsh decision, but warranted given the level of destruction involved in Wandsworth. Hopefully this acts as a deterrent in future. Those who show no respect for our community should not expect the support of that community for them and their family.
Joe Sakic

12 August 2011

Esther, UK - if you want to talk waste of money and lost lives, how about Iraq, Afganistan, Libya etc. If you want to talk about wasted money, let's talk about the bankers raping our finances. Let's talk about company hiding BILLIONS in off shore accounts to avoid paying tax. Wake up - petty criminals are not the issue, nor is making a family homeless. How is that going to make them less of a criminal? If they have nothing to lose, why would they stop robbing. At least in prison they'd get a bed and a meal.
Claire

12 August 2011

This is a repulsive and disgusting act. Not only are you punishing a child who has not yet been found guilty of any crime, you are indulging in a collective punishment by extending guilt to the mother. While she may well bear some responsibility, she did no wrong in the eyes of the law. It is for the courts to punish crime, not you. In addition, you are making a child homeless. By what system of morality is making a child homeless an acceptable punishment for their wrongdoing? What is this, the Highland Clearances? No, Ravi Govindia, you should not have welcomed this: you should have rejected it. It has no place in a civilised country, and does nothing but shame the UK.
Chris

12 August 2011

Why don't you evict other criminals as well? or are other crimes acceptable to you guys?
Aarron

12 August 2011

Well done! Hopefully by sticking to the tenancy terms and following them through it will show the rioters there are boundaries - something most sensible people agree they need!
Donna Blakey

12 August 2011

How does this apply to any other law that is broken? How does it apply homeowners? More Mob rule in response to Mob rule.
Paul Gibbons

12 August 2011

What a bunch of ignorant fascists wandsworth council and councillors are! Try reading Stan Cohen's "Folk Devils and Moral Panics" to put this into perspective and then see how utterly stupid you all are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic
raymond buckley

12 August 2011

Are you going to evict everyone of your tennants with a criminal record? If not you are discriminating. Are there no robbers, murderers, or sex offenders among your tennents?
Lynn Leigh

12 August 2011

I completely agree with the decision, along with the government petition to cut benefits for rioters and looters. They make me sick to my stomach and have caused over £100,000 of damage to London alone. The money has to be made up somewhere, and it's not coming out of the working mans wages! Punish those responsible. And what about those that had their homes as well as everything they own burned to ashes? The 140 year old family business that survived 2 world wars, but not these scum that fight for no cause except their own thrills and self gain? Not to mention the few that were killed just trying to stand up for themselves. And there are people saying you shouldn't chuck these animals out of there homes?! I say - about time.
Esther

12 August 2011

This is absolutely shameful. It's not Wandsworth's job to punish any tenants convicted of crime - it's the court's. You are punishing other members of the family (accused of no crime at all) purely by association. If you think making a family homeless in your area solves any kind of problem, rather than creating another even bigger one, you are horribly wrong. The fact the person in question has yet to even be convicted says it all. This is cheap attention-grabbing politics which I hope rebounds damagingly on your council leader.
Sam Davies

12 August 2011

Have you considered the effect on your streets of families you will be making homeless & possibly penniless? Are you also evicting the families of those whose relatives commit crimes such as murder, rape, fraud or any others on the statute list? Will you be evicting the families of children of school, even primary, school age? Have you actually considered any of these or a number of other pertinent and relevant questions?
Donna Baker

12 August 2011

Shame shame. So are you going to evict all the other criminals living in council homes? Are you? No, I doubt it. We wouldn't want rapists/child molesters evicted with no address for police to monitor. This is a knee jerk reaction, it's disgusting. Take away from people who already have so little that they feel compelled to express it through frustration. And what now? Split up a family? Rehome in private accom, shelters (already stretched to breaking point by poor social housing). The court gives out punishment, that is enough. Change your mind please.
Deborah Ritchie

12 August 2011

This seems like petty and vindictive scapegoating of someone who is probably unable to defend themselves effectively. Why should they be evicted from their home because of the actions of one of their children? I have been appalled by the scenes of rioting and looting that have occupied our TV screens over the past week, but this seems to me to be an action motivated purely by spite and the desire to get an approving headline in the Daily Mail. Shame on you.
James Richardson

12 August 2011

All these fools calling for the 'just punishment' of rioters are just plain gutless - the MP's, media broadcasters and Bankers all got off scott free bar the odd patsy. Where were you then? Did you get what you wanted or were those scum so protected by everything you validate your life with you didnt bother? This is a stupid reaction to an ill this society has, amongst so many others. Social housing is NOT a privelege to withdrawn - thats driving or standing for public office - housing in a managed economy is a RIGHT. Unemployment and the ills it brings are part of this managed economy and, as such, those overseeing it must take responsibility - something they expect from the weak and poor or incapable - but never exhibit themselves.
Marc Letford

12 August 2011

This is irresponsible action and could lead to an increase in those living on the streets and the need to take children in to care as homeless parents cease to be able to provide for their children. The cost in human suffering and to the tax payer long term is simply unacceptable. It should be remembered that no has actually been charged with rioting and that many have previously clean records and offences they are charged with are very minor (for example, carrying an empty black bin bag and wearing a hood, stealing bottled water worth less than £3.00). Response to undesirable behaviour should be proportional, consistent and reasonable. Excessive punishment will inevitably fuel further unrest the cost of which has to be borne by all
Rebecca Devitt

12 August 2011

So, are you going to evict families of murderers, rapists and peodophiles? Are you assuming that a parent always knows what their child is doing? Are grandparents, siblings and extended family members also to lose their homes? Where will these families go? Isn't it up to the courts do dole out 'justice' re: criminal acts? Why are you evicting someone who has only been charged and not convicted of an offence? This is a knee-jerk response by a Council keen to do Camerons bidding. Shame on you.
Suzanne Newman

12 August 2011

Wandsworth, I hope there are people standing on this man's doorstep when you send the bailiffs round. It was done under the Poll tax, it should be done again.
Bom Doyle

12 August 2011

If it was the tenant, theer might be an arguement forr doing this - although I dont see how it helps the overall situation. But it wasn't- it was their son. Unless you have hidden reasons for evicting them, this is so very wrong.
Steve Tupper

12 August 2011

Precedent and proportionality are two principles that Wandsworth might stumble over when this publicity stunt reaches a court.
Sam Saunders

12 August 2011

How does this action solve anything? The divide grows, the 'underclass' become more angry and we put them on the streets when I thought the idea of justice was to take criminals off the streets? Punishing innocents for association is pimitive and draconian. Can I take it we can look forward to seeing peadophiles, rapists, arsonists, armed robbers etc losing their homes and taking to our streets too? Ridiculous, you should be ashamed of yourself Wandsworth Council.
Kellie

12 August 2011

Congratulations. A knee-jerk reaction and collective punishment for the sins of the sun against the father. Who ever even heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? Didn't Cameron say people (Andy Coulson) should be given second-chances? You're storing up some real hatred here. And a good lawyer is going to sue you for millions.
T Coles

12 August 2011

Firstly - he is an alledged rioter.Secondly his parents are not. Thirdly - this smacks of the lynch mob mentality. The courts are here to punish not every wannabe knee jerk vigilante which is how your acting. Disgusting. Disgusting, and Disgusting. Shame on you. I hope the community fights to defend them. The Government and bankers are doing more damage to our communities and our lives than any rioter possibly could. The eviction notice is sick. Follow yor own twisted logic and where do we get to ?
Damien Willis

12 August 2011

You people really should be ashamed of yourself. If nothing else this is vengeance and collective punishment. You really are not decent people. This will only cause more problems but I'm afraid you might be slightly too dim to realise.
Glenn Williams

12 August 2011

Wandsworth Council's actions are in flagrant breach of the clear ban in on Collective Punishment under International Law: 2. Principle of Individual Criminal Responsibility, Including the Prohibition of Collective Punishment (a) International Human Rights Law 64 The principle of → individual criminal responsibility, including the prohibition of → collective punishment is reflected in Art. 5 (3) ACHR and Art. 7 (2) Banjul Charter. Although not contained in the ECHR, the ECtHR stated that ‘[i]t is a fundamental rule … that criminal liability does not survive the person who has committed the criminal act’ (AP, MP and TP v Switzerland [ECtHR] Case No 71/1996/690/882 [29 August 1997] para. 4 Your actions are unlawful
Colin Walklin

12 August 2011

Wandsworth council have disgraced themselves here with this nonsense. Their reputation nationally is in tatters.
Mike

12 August 2011

"How will making people homeless reduce the chance of future rioting happen?" Maybe we should give them a sack of money - then they really really will hopefully not riot again - or maybe we should buy then a new car too. Appeasement is not renowned for being successful.
Clark Kent

12 August 2011

Has Eric Pickles forgotten his own Criminal Past? A pompous greedy fat crook! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/shadow-cabinet-expenses/5634046/Eric-Pickles-expenses.html
Injury_Claims_

12 August 2011

They have been found guilty - not merely charged. Some then referred to the higher non-magistrates courts for harsher sentencing. 1. Commit crime 2. Get caught 3. Get charged with a crime 4. Got to court 5. Get found guilty of said crime 6. Get sentenced. At any point after number '5', Wansdworth is entirely right to evict.
Clark Kent

12 August 2011

This decision is an utter disgrace, morally repugnant and worst of all entirely ineffective. How will making people homeless reduce the chance of future rioting happen?
Noel

12 August 2011

How quick people are to defend the rights of those who do not respect the rights of others. With rights comes responsibilities, and this mother should have taken those on properly when her son was born so that he grew up to be a decent citizen. Why was he on the streets? Why couldn't she control his behaviour?. Parenting is hard work and requires effort to show results. No effort - no results - no rights. As a single mum myself I appreciate the help given by the State when needed but it cannot be all take - people have to give back to the community too. This family clearly did not believe that. She will now have to find private accomm and pay for it. Well done Wandsworth for your reality check.
Jane Richardson

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth Housing for doing the right thing, this is the only way forward to encourage parents to be responsible for their children, as for residents old enough to know better denying these people your housing services will give them motivation to improve their life like the rest of the tax paying public. Hopefully other councils in the UK will be inspired from your courageousness and follow suit.
Daniel

12 August 2011

This kind of action ranks with all the others that confirm to many that, whichever party is in power, it's the "we don't give a toss about you party" (courtesy of Russell Brand). What a contrast with Norway's reaction to the Breivik massacre; the British know only kneejerk hatred.
Peter Garbutt

12 August 2011

I am puzzled. Whilst deploring the activities of the rioters and endorsing the sentencing, I am puzzled why the mother of a criminal is caught up in the punishment. And since one assumes these people cannot just live on the sreet, are you not merely moving a problem somewhere else just to get some headlines?
John Weightman

12 August 2011

Are you going to evict the families of those 'charged' (don't forget they haven't been convicted) of rape and murder too? What a load of populist tripe.
Nick

12 August 2011

For goodness sake - it is obvious that he is only being evicted because has been found guilty. Not even Wandsworth would risk the legal implicaitons of punshing someone merely ACCUSED. Presumption of innocence etc is irrelevant once the judge finds the rioter guilty. GUILTY. See? He did it. And has to face the consequences.
Clark Kent

12 August 2011

I think this is a shocking knee-jerk reaction to a terrible situation. As the prime minister of Norway rightly pointed out in response to their current tradgedy knee-jerk decisions should not be made in the heat of the moment. Good decisions can never be made in the heat of the moment.
Rowena Banerjea

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth!
D.C.Mallett

12 August 2011

It would appear you are unaware of a basic legal principle: "the presumption of innocence". Could I suggest brushing up on it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence
Natalie Bennett

12 August 2011

I totally support and welcome the council's stand on this matter. People need to learn to take responsibility and that there are consequences to actions.
Sarah

12 August 2011

SAville - my point is that social handouts should be allocated to those that deserve it. Not to antisocial criminals who refuse to obey the norms of decent society, but to hard working decent normal people.
Will S

12 August 2011

People must take responsibility for their actions. To say "theose poor people are going to get evicted because their son rioted - how horrible ...." If your place of work had been trashed and you lost your job and were going to be evicted due to not being able to pay the rent because of that sons actions - how fair is that. They had a child - they must take responsibity for that child. Unless people realise that there are consequences for their actions we will just get more riots
John Williams

12 August 2011

I predict a riot....in Wandsworth....over this.
I predict a riot

12 August 2011

Good. And I hope they will allocate the vacant property to someone who lost their home in this weeks disgraceful behaviour. It is high time people learnt that there is a price to pay when you break the Law and destroy other peoples property.
Andy

12 August 2011

These thugs were not rioting because they are poor and hungry. They were rioting because they chose to commit criminal activities. Thus entirely right they should be pucnished and have benefits removed. Right decision.
Will F

12 August 2011

This is very short-sighted and I hope you re-consider. The punishment does not fit the crime. Has he even been convicted yet? And of what - minor looting is v different to arson. And why should the rest of his family be made to pay such a high price for his actions? It is the Court's role to dish out suitable punishment, not the Council's. They will decide what the penalty should be. How do you anticipate that turfing a family out of their home will help this individual become a more responsible member of society? Now he has a criminal record, he will find it more difficult to get a job. Without a home address, even harder. By penalising him in this way, you make it significantly more likely he will turn to crime. Think again
Ben Stark

12 August 2011

Will S You gran has to pay for her own medical care because of the BANKS who obbed aout £850 BILLION - not because of a £300 pound theft of a PS3!!
SAville

12 August 2011

I applaud this decision.
Gale Anderson

12 August 2011

This is outrageous. Are you going to evict the family of every criminal? Why not take property away from bankers who destroyed the economy? Did David Cameron's folks loose their property when he smashed up restaurants with the Bullingdon Club? This eviction is yet another attack on council housing which the government is trying to eliminate altogether. It's a disgrace!!!.
Sean Taylor

12 August 2011

When are Wandsworth going to try to get back some of the money stolen by Shirley Porter? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/sleaze-scandal-strips-dame-shirley-porter-of-her-title-585946.html No too interested in seing justice done at ALL levels, right Wandsworth?
Harry Truman

12 August 2011

you are as bad as the rioters ,what the hell are you doing ,that is going to put some of the other family members that live there who have done no wrong, on the streets ,are you mad that aloan could start more riots ,now whos going to fair,you are making them have to steal to live , i think you will regret this one like,an other bad decision,.
paul

12 August 2011

Why should my taxes pay for these scum to sit and play on their stolen PS3s? My (formerly taxpaying) gran has to pay for her own medical care, yet criminals expect to be housed? About time a stand was made. Keep it up. Don't let the wimpy do-gooders persuade you that turnign the other cheek is always the best answer.
Will S

12 August 2011

Guess Cllr Ravi Govindia has a lot to live up to. First a plan to charge kids £2.50 to use council playgrounds, now this - let's punish the family. That's really going to help. Anyone remember Cllr Shirley Porter, her gerrymandering scam and plans to sell-off council cemeteries for 1p? Ah, Wandsworth! Where greed and stupidity run the show.
Philip Seletsky

12 August 2011

The tenancy condition covering anti-social behaviour in the immediate locality of the property is there to protect neighbours from violence, bullying, noisy behaviour, thieving from neighbours and etc. It usually takes more than one anti-social event to trigger eviction proceedings, and a range of other approaches are usually tried first. IF these fail an eviction notice will be applied for. This is as it should be. Unless the involvement in the Clapham Junction incidents directly affected neighbours, eviction is not appropriate. The criminal justice system is adequate for dealing with violence and looting. There is absolutely no reason to extend the punishment to the whole family, to deny someone a home, or to take away their benefits
Simon s

12 August 2011

This was a bad decision. If the Council chooses to chastise looters in this way, the decent thing to do would be to wait until the legal systems declares the person to be in violation of a law.
Michael Holt

12 August 2011

Well done to you for being the first borought to make the stand !!!!!!!!!!!!! These people are always complaining they have nothing- and a council home is nothing????? They should be eternally grateful !!!! Well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
K. Jennings

12 August 2011

Ha ha ha ha - what a bunch of snake skins some people are eh? A 'looter' loots a few hundred pounds of trainers or TV's from a shop and he gets evicted - meanwhile the BANKS just looted all your pensions (you just don't know it yet) and they've stolen BILLIONS from you which you will be paying back later through tax and inflation) What mugs you all are - proper suckers. The kids had the right idea **** the system! The 'aduls' in society should be ashamed of themselves for appeasing their slave masters. Ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha

12 August 2011

Wandsworth Council evicts person whose family member was involved in the riots. Under housing rules councils may only evict local tenants for criminal acts committed within the locality. So, those who travelled beyond their locality to take part in the riots (and those that they live with but who may not have taken part in the riots) will not be put at risk of homelessness. Those who do not live in social housing but did take part in the riots will not be put at risk of homelessness at all. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of depriving people of their home for taking part in the riots, I am extremely disturbed by the fact that some are penalised more than others for similar criminal acts. Meanwhile, I am more disgusted by the tug-o-
GP

12 August 2011

After reading some of the comments supporting this eviction I have to ask...Are you people STUPID or what? If you want more looting, more rioting from more people cast out of society - then you're going the right way about it! I bet half of you call yourselves 'christians' too - you hypocrites.
Tony Walker

12 August 2011

1. why have you not waited for a conviction? 2. do you plan to evict all relatives of people charged with crimes that are unrelated to the riots and looting? 3. will you be evicting anyone who already has a criminal record? 4. Will you be evicting anyone who is related to someone with a criminal record? 5. how many people with criminal records have been housed by Wandsworth Council? 6. How many people who have been charged (but not convicted) of a crime are currently being housed by Wandsworth Council? 7. Do you think that it is better to put these people on the streets and in hostels? Will this lesson their criminal behavior? 8. If a child is involved, do you intend on sending them to a children's home if they are then homeless?
Claire

12 August 2011

Dear Wandsworth, Maybe if you didn't have the cheapest council tax (pay nothing, get nothing) in Britain then there would have been more police on the streets to stop the looting in the first place!!
Jenny Wilson

12 August 2011

I am amazed at the outpouring of opposition to this action. This is not about "pacifying" the situation. This is about rectifying the problem of disrespect, lack of discipline and no concept of boundaries or consequences of actions. Why should society pay for those that refuse to behave decently?
Tom D

12 August 2011

They should evict these people, and give the house to someone else who is currently homeless. They may be more appreciative & grateful; they can hardly be *less* grateful. If there's only a limited supply of homes, it makes sense to give them to people who deserve them.
Dean B

12 August 2011

This is just so stupid and re-active rather than pro-active. Do you know how many other people in your housing have convictions? Surely if there is a problem with parenting, not forgetting how many single women face violence from their children, wouldn't it be better in the long term to take the son into care and help him understand social responsibility. It is such double standards. It means homeowners can commit crimes and be punished by the courts, but if you are a social housing tenant you are not only punished by the courts but by your "social" landlord. Disgusting I hope you all get thrown out at the next election. Who are you doing this for? Praise in the Daily Mail.
Jane Smith

12 August 2011

Congratulations Wandsworth, the family of this kid could have easily kept this child in on the day of the riots but let him join the rest of the scum
Wayne

12 August 2011

How appalling. This is a disgrace, Wandsworth. You should be thoroughly ashamed about this knee-jerk attempted at populism. And I am just hearing the council leader on the radio. He doesn't even seem to be aware of the full facts of the case. How can you make a rational decision in the current climate of hysteria, when you don't even have the facts in front of you? The very worst kind of government.
Mark Burden

12 August 2011

Clearly 'Phil Clarke' doesn't know the difference between a spelling mistake and a typo. I wonder if he's 'educated' and that's why he likes to keep things 'simples'. simple things for simple minds eh Phil?
Russel Proctor

12 August 2011

I think this gives a good message that anti-social behaviour won't be tolerated, especially by those ion social housing. The leases already states that the leaseholder has responsibility for their family and guests, so the council are well within their right to take this course of action. I don't think a judge will evict with such little evidence or cause, but the message it sends out is that those with "nothing to lose" actually DO have something to lose! The looters are criminals. Our society would be far better place without any of them, and I for one would rather not be paying for them!
Andy

12 August 2011

Written to I am extremely worried that you have decided to evict someone who is a relative of someone charged (not convicted) of looting. Does this mean that anyone who is a relative of someone charged with a crime (but not yet convicted) will be evicted from your council properties? What about your current tenants - do you have plans to evict every person who has been convicted of a crime - as well as their relatives? Do you have the legal authority to do this? I don't think so. I doubt very much that a judge will allow your eviction notice to go through. However, I would like a response to my questions: 1. why have you not waited for a conviction? 2. do you plan to evict all relatives of people charged with crimes that are unr
Claire

12 August 2011

Whereas I applaud any local authority in clamping down on criminal tenants, this is clearly a knee jerk reaction and not a viable solution. Is putting a family out on the streets really the way to deal with this? It's not always a parent's fault that their child is unruly, although I'd agree that in most cases it is. The police and the courts should be left to deal with this in the most severe manner and with custodial sentencing. Have the decision makers in Wandsworth Council (or any other borough threatening the same) ever lived in hardship, below the poverty line or in areas of deprivation. Perhaps a judge should be the one to decide whether a family loses their home as a consequence of a child's appalling behaviour, not WBC.
Jenny Border

12 August 2011

I firmly support this action. There are consequences to actions. Those of us that work hard and pay taxes do not appreciate it being handed out to those who are so blatantly abuse their own community. Social support is a benefit (not a right) provided by the more fortunate in society to those that are less fortunate. For too long certain sections of society appear to assume that they are owed a living by the rest of us. I am delighted that this action is being taken to send a message out to those on benefits that they should value what they are being given - because it is their countrymen that work hard to give it. Good work Wandsworth.
Ben K

12 August 2011

I firmly support this action. There are consequences to actions. Those of us that work hard and pay taxes do not appreciate it being handed out to those who are so blatantly abuse their own community. Social support is a benefit (not a right) provided by the more fortunate in society to those that are less fortunate. For too long certain sections of society appear to assume that they are owed a living by the rest of us. I am delighted that this action is being taken to send a message out to those on benefits that they should value what they are being given - because it is their countrymen that work hard to give it. Good work Wandsworth.
Ben K

12 August 2011

I'm so glad that the 'intelligent' middle class frightened sheep think eviction is a good way to calm the situation. I mean seriously how dumb are they? Don't worry - I shall find out who this person is and they can come and live in my Wandsworth council flat - try evicting me Wandsworth - and I'll run legal rngs around you - AGAIN.
Reality bites

12 August 2011

This is wrong. Had the council said `In any future riots, there will be evictions` thus forcing the father to ensure his son was at home, then MAYBE I could support it, but retro-actively? No chance
Tony Harrison

12 August 2011

Well Done Wandsworth! A real message to people that you have to live and stand by your actions. Why should tax payers pay for people who act in this way. I hope my local council will follow suit but I won't hold my breath as they will be expecting these people to vote for them at the next locals.
Gareth

12 August 2011

Clearly the centuries of evolution haven't helped Russel Proctors' spelling either
Phil Clarke

12 August 2011

Did you get that lads? - next time we target Wandsworth council - I don't need anymore tainers and the media were stupid enough to believe that this was just some sort of looting. The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire...
Rioter

12 August 2011

They will not be evicted if the boy is not convicted; the eviction process has just started same as the court process. All Wandsworth Council tenants have agreed to the condition of tenancy that they will not take part in anti-social behaviour, the son allegedly broke that agreement. It is up to the father to control his son. If the son is convicted the eviction should take place. If more severe action like this was applied throughout the country we will see a lot less of the disgusting behaviour that took place earlier this week. Wandsworth Council are to be congratulated.
Sungei Patani

12 August 2011

Yeah - sure you will Wandsworth - you try convincing a judge that this act was a 'repeated act of anti-social behaviour directly impacting the tennants neighbours' - as required by the criminal justice act. This is going to anoher examlpe of why Wandsworth spend more than any other councils in the courts. It's a waste of time, a waste of money and only done to seek publicity. You see Wandsworth - WE live in a civil society - and that means when people do things un-civil - we do no lower ourselves to their level. Clearly the centuries of eveolution haven' affected Wandsworths decision making.
Russel Proctor

12 August 2011

They won't be homeless, they'll just have the inconvenience of having to move and find somewhere else to live, the same as those whose homes were destroyed by fire because of behaviour like that of the son. They can still claim housing benefit. I pity any siblings involved but have no sympathy for the son or the parents. If you break a contractual agreement this is what you should expect.
Gemima Puddleduck

12 August 2011

Disgusting behaviour by the Council.. how will this help anybody.. how will this in any way make things better.. this is not justice, it is small minded and fascist behaviour. Please please try to understand the root causes and stop these pathetic knee-jerk reactions.
dave

12 August 2011

They won't be homeless, they'll just have the inconvenience of having to move and find somewhere else to live, the same as those whose homes were destroyed by fire because of behaviour like that of the son. They can still claim housing benefit. I pity any siblings involved but have no sympathy for the son or the parents. If you break a contractual agreement this is what you should expect.
Gemima Puddleduck

12 August 2011

This is excellent stuff. People have got to learn to be responsible for and to take the consequences of their actions. These sociopathic rioting scum had no consideration for their fellow human beings. So it is fitting that society should have no consideration for them. It has taken the riots to get the police, magistrates and politicians to do what they should have done a long time ago. The feckless, parasitic, criminal underclass should not be encouraged by hand outs and soft treatment.
Bruce

12 August 2011

I hope your housing department is ready for the backlash. Poor old front-line workers, the big and well paid cheeses make these poliically moivated decisions to play to the crowd, and it's the poor (wages frozen) frontline staff who have to face the consequences.
Jim Rogers

12 August 2011

OMG does this Council not realise that we have a situation in this country at the moment, are they seriously considering making it worse. Also where are these people to go, private housing? Therefore housing benefits to be paid and higher than the present coouncil rent.... WTG to wasting public money on that one.....
milomaff

12 August 2011

Excellent, well done Wandsworth Council. Hopefully all other councils will follow suit. The taxpayer shouldn't be funded the lifestyle of criminal scum.
Amir

12 August 2011

This is just more fuel on the fire of revolution - well done Wandsworth - now we will be moving up to the 'next level' - burning down town halls (traditionally the next stage in a revolution)
Gary Walsh

12 August 2011

Wandsworth are going to regret this decision in so many ways....
Wandsworth resident

12 August 2011

Isn't his the sort of thing that Hitler used to do? Evicted because you son broke the law - it's a good thing that Rupert Murdoch didn't have to rely on a Wandswth council house. Mass hypocriscy will be met with mass disobedience - you can foget getting my council tax from now on Wandsworth.
James Phillips

12 August 2011

If you evict all these people, where exactly are they going to go? You want more homeless people in your area? More angry people with nothing to lose?? Your craving for retribution will only exacerbate the situation. As per usual, morons in charge looking to score browny points with the electorate. Disgustingly stupid. Expect more unrest...
Mick Schofield

12 August 2011

So, the Council of Wandsworth is setting itself above the Law? Basically acting as a second tier Court without any hope of reprieve or real justice? Is this just-in-case the person concerned is NOT jailed? I thought that it was for the Courts of Justice ALONE to deal with these matters - and NOT for other Authorities to hold their own Courts.. otherwise, where does punishment end? I guarantee that if Wandsworth or any other Council decides to act vindictively, while usurping the power of the Royal Courts of Justice or adding their own petty side-bars- especially in view of the fact that public sensitivities are raw at present, and any Justice might seem 'reasonable': then the riots which came thereafter might seem like War.
Micha Saiits

12 August 2011

Disgraceful Wandsworth - maybe for the next council meeting you might want to arrange 'additional security'. You have just exploded a can of worms.
Aaron Porter

12 August 2011

Talk about not taking responsibility for your actions - wandsworth cuts created this anger that we saw spill over into the streets last weekend - and now your solution to the problem you created is to 'cut it out'. Gerald Jones is the highest paid leader in the country - and yet he presides over some of the poorest parts of london. He should be ashamed of himself - the greedy pig.
James Dreyfus

12 August 2011

"You have to comply with certain conditions or risk losing your home"Ok.The father did.
Gavin Saunders

12 August 2011

Good... The father agreed to the terms of the lease, he didn't comply and so gets evicted. If they don't like the rules go somewhere else..... Simples
Phil Clarke

12 August 2011

Way to go wandsworth - you just made a bad situation worse.
Simon Churchill

12 August 2011

This is so wrong!!! I did not elect MPs to do this. I am seething and hope you back down with your silly, and irresponsible actions.
Mel

12 August 2011

Pathetic and opportunistic electioneering, motivated only by the politics of the buzzword, the talking-point. As others have noted, it will solve nothing - and is deeply immoral considering that the evictee is at this stage only an "alleged" participant in the riots. Being charged of a crime is not the same as being guilty of it; you would think that, being the people who run things, you would know this. Please reconsider this disastrous and poorly-thought-through excuse for a policy.
Jo Moore

12 August 2011

Well done Wandsworth - looking forward to Hounslow doing the same thing.
William Luckman

12 August 2011

Wandsworth you are a disgrace. How dare you abuse your position and try to play 'lawmaker' - you're making the problem worse as now those with 'little to lose' will have 'nothing to lose' - and the public will take the punishment for your actions when the retaliations come. I for one intend to help these tennants fight eviction - and I've already wiped the loor with you in court once before.
Peter

12 August 2011

Evict them all, They had no regards for their own Cities so why be allowed to live there? My 14 year old son was told he was not allowed out so I know my son wasn't involved in any of that stupidness, Any parent could have kept their child in but clearly some chose to ignore what their off springs were doing
chez

12 August 2011

Wow. Because homelessness solves everything. Nice one Wandsworth. Problem solved.
R Sutton

12 August 2011

However angry we all feel about this, how on earth does evicting this person and their parent help matters? wouldn't it be better to make sure they do some heavy duty community service/payback?
Annie McDowall

12 August 2011

They will just get another social property somewhere else. Reduce their benefits for a while instead if he is found guilty, or if the action was severe enough how about a jail term?
Stephen Thrift

12 August 2011

So, a tenant's son has been accused of taking part in the riots and they are to be evicted? This makes sense to you? With logic like this...disgusting and counter-productive, as another correspondent put it, sums it up!
Don MacKeen

12 August 2011

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? "A council tenant whose son has appeared in court charged in connection with Monday night’s disturbances in Clapham Junction" "Appeared in court" does not equate to guilty and how is it fair to punish the father for the crimes of the son? Ravi Govindia sounds like a tool, jumping on the populist "flog 'em & hang 'em" bandwagon without the slightest consideration for the role of justice. By all means punish the son if he is found guilty, but this mad rush to be the first council to evict a rioter (and his innocent father) then boasting about it on this website makes Wandsworth Council look like a very reactionary and unthinking authority.
Tom

12 August 2011

This is disgusting and absolutely counter-productive behaviour by the council.
Eleanor Saunders

12 August 2011